Hillary Mann Leverett on America’s War with the Islamic State, the Iran Nuclear Talks and U.S.-Israeli Relations, and U.S.-Russian Proxy War in Ukraine

Hillary went on MSNBC’s Melissa Harris-Parry  yesterday to discuss the Obama administration’s ongoing war against the Islamic State (IS), see here and here, the public split between the administration and Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu over Iran policy, see here, and the continuing crisis in and over Ukraine, see here.  On IS, Hillary takes on the all-too-frequent claim that the movement reflects pathological aspects of Islam and/or Middle Eastern culture, noting:

There was no Islamic State before [the United States] invaded Iraq, before we destroyed the political order there and upturned the political order in the Middle East.  The precursor to the Islamic State was Al-Qa’ida in Iraq, which—in contrast to Vice President Cheney’s claims—did not exist in Iraq and which was created as a response to the U.S. invasion.  What we minimize in looking at the Islamic State, because we hate their tactics, is that it has emerged as the strongest, most formidable Sunni organization to protect Sunnis and resist the West and other governments that align with the West.”

Underscoring how much Western discourse on IS’ “brutality” (exemplified in the recent execution of a captured Jordanian pilot) and “fanaticism” misses the movement’s highly strategic approach, Hillary points out:

“The strategy of IS has been very clear, instrumental, and extraordinarily effective.  Keep in mind—when IS first took Mosul, back in June, they had about 6,000 foot soldiers; today, they have over 50,000.

Although Jordanians want revenge for now, support for IS within Jordan is still deep.  It’s not every Jordanian, but it’s deep.  There are over 2,000 Jordanians fighting with IS.

So, IS’ strategy is twofold:  One is for IS to show would-be attackers as weak, because their response is going to be meaningless in the in the face of IS  hostage-killing.  The other is to get attackers to overreach:  for the United States to be seen as the cruel, inhumane bomber-murderer, and for Jordan, too, to get it to overreach and for this King to been seen as just an American lackey taking orders from the United States…The concern in Jordan for American foreign policy—what it does in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine—is a tool IS uses to surge recruitment very effectively.”

Regarding the controversy over Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s scheduled address to a joint session of Congress about Iran on March 3, Hillary explains:

“It shows how close we are to peace with Iran, which would be as revolutionary and beneficial to the United States as when we recognized and normalized relations with China in the 1970s.  Because Obama has taken a page from our book, Going to Tehran, has shown the courage, gone forward, and actually gotten us close to a deal, that has gotten key people in Congress to come out.

The Congressional Black Caucus started it.  They had the courage to come out first, when nobody else would come out and back the President, they came out and backed the President.  And they said, what’s going on here is the President is doing something right, and we need to defend him against a clear, blatant, partisan attack.  And the Israelis fed right into it.  They thought they could manipulate Congress, and they went right to the Republicans and tried to make it a partisan game.  And I think they’re really going to suffer when this goes down.

We’re looking at fundamental change in the Middle East.  U.S. policy cannot sustain itself the way it is, and if President Obama can see this through, he will have a legacy of peace and stability that will be quite remarkable…I think we saw a very smart move by President Obama, by the Democratic Party—frankly, that I hadn’t seen for six years—to lead the agenda, to take charge, to actually lead.  They came out hitting after the loss in the midterm elections.  From January 20, with the State of the Union speech, what they’ve done on immigration, on a range of things—the Iran issue has become part and parcel of that:  ‘let the president lead on foreign policy, let him succeed.’  And then the chips will fall where they may in 2016.  And I think that the Democrats are now quite confident, as they haven’t been in a few years, that this will come to fruition on a range of issues for Obama and help surge the Democrats to victory in 2016.”

Finally, as continuing tensions between Washington and Moscow prompt mounting calls for the United States and the West to provide “defensive” weapons to Ukraine, Hillary counters that the only real solution to the crisis is for Washington and its partners to “rebuild the relationship [with Russia and President Vladimir Putin]”—to “talk to them,” to “take their interests seriously,” and to “look at a serious way to go about having a neutral Ukraine.”

–Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann Leverett


162 Responses to “Hillary Mann Leverett on America’s War with the Islamic State, the Iran Nuclear Talks and U.S.-Israeli Relations, and U.S.-Russian Proxy War in Ukraine”

  1. Pirouz says:

    Pleased with the upbeat elements of this assessment.

    On the down side, concerning Daesh strategy, pains me to agree with Hillary.

  2. Macowm says:

    I would really like to share Hillary’s positive attitude about all of this, but I’m afraid I can’t.

    The US seems to be playing multiple roles. With one hand they feed ISIS and the other they slap them on the back. Is this evidence of a split between the Obama administration and the intelligence community? Anyone have thoughts about Saudi’s relationship to all this? Is there a split within Saudi in regard to ISIS as well?

  3. James Canning says:

    Isis seems to be more a response to Shia political behavior in Iraq, than a response to the 2003 US invasion of Iraq.

  4. Rd. says:

    James Canning says:
    February 10, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    A historical lesson for dear james….

    “A popular comic character in Persian and Turkish folklore, Nasreddin, is said to joke with people and encourage them to go to a place in another part of the city that he claimed offered free food. Having repeated this lie over and over, Nasreddin himself thought that it might actually be the truth, so he went all the way to that place to verify a lie he had fabricated himself. Does this tale not sound familiar?”

    Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/02/iran-sanctions-diplomacy-us-history-shah-iraq-west.html#ixzz3RNCZVyQt

  5. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 10, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    One material cause of ISIS is the existence of a common Sunni Arab subculture in Western Iraq and Eastern Syria.

    The formal cause of ISIS is Wahabi Islam that has become, for tens of millions of Sunni Muslims, the One True Islam.

    The efficient cause of ISIS has been the combined NATO (including Turkey) and Southern Persian Gulf states effort to wound Iran by destroying the Ba’ath state in Syria.

    One cannot do anything about the material cause.

    The formal cause can only be combatted by positing a rival understanding of Islam – perhaps Muslim Brotherhood – a long-term project.

    The efficient cause can be removed if NATO (including Turkey) and Arabs change their policy and end their wars in Syria and in Iran.

    Then there might be a chance of containing ISIS (but not destroying it).

    Since NATO States and Arabs have invested so much money and diplomacy and effort into wounding Iran by destroying Syria, there is snow ball’s chance in Hell of them ending their wars against Iran and Syria.

    Since Axis Powers will not end their wars, Iran and Iraq and Syria must negotiate a Hudna/cease fire with ISIS.

    That is the best course of action for the Axis of Resistance while NATO States and Arabs can go through their phony war with ISIS.

    There is no other way.

  6. fyi says:

    Macowm says:

    February 10, 2015 at 11:19 am

    The Saudis need ISIS against Iran, Syria, and Iraq.

    They still think that they can insulate & protect themselves from ISIS.

    The fact of the matter is, any Sunni leader fighting against ISIS will be depicted by ISIS as a mercenary of the Christian Powers; King Abdullah of Jordan is risking his throne and his life by fighting against ISIS.

    What ISIS is doing is broadly accepted to be compatible and consistent with Islam – only the Shia are condemning it at the popular level.

    Let Axis Powers, Turkey, and Arabs fight their creation; which they won’t.

    ISIS in the new NAZI Germany that is needed against the new USSR – Iran.

  7. Kooshy says:

    James Canning says:
    February 10, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    You and Tony B-liar have the same mentality (blame others for your lack of vision) which at the end of the day is a cheap and desperate British opportunistic hope for an imaginary revival of a lost dead empire.

  8. Irshad says:

    Please have a look at this and tell me your thoughts on it:


    Its written as if Iran was prepared for the Syria civil war to break out for it to mobilise the SHia and move in to expand its influence. But one wonders how Iran and Russia did not anticipate the war on Syria and did not thwart it at a early stage.

  9. Karl.. says:

    Sure, if you admit that this behaviour is because of the politics of the Cameron and Hague of the UK.

    ‘An eye for an eye’: British soldier beheaded, killed in barbaric machete attack

  10. Karl.. says:

    that is supposed to go to James Canning ^

  11. fyi says:

    Irshad says:

    February 11, 2015 at 11:06 am

    I think the article is accurate in describing Iranian tactics but is disingenuous in ignoring the sources of Iranians’ behavior as well their allies.

    It never mentions the anger and bitterness existing among Iranians – leaders and the led – due to what transpired during Iran-Iraq War.

    The article likewise ignores the origins of the Lebanese Hezbollah in the brutal 1982 invasion of Lebanon and large scale massacres of Shia and Sunni in that country by Israelis and their Christian allies.

    It never mentions the butchery of Shia in Iraq by the Ba’athist state soldiers in 1991.

    It ignores the US plans for the destruction of Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah after the accomplishment of Iraqi pacification post invasion in 2003.

    It ignores the strategic escalation to nowhere by P5+1 in 2007 in the Iran Nuclear case.

    And lastly, it never mentions the sources of funds for the anti-government forces in Syria; Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar as well as logistical support of NATO through Turkey.

    The fact of the matter is that NATO states (including Turkey), Sunni Arab States, Russia and China had agreed to prevent and to otherwise thwart the emergence of a new geopolitically independent power in the Near East.

    What they have accomplished is hastening the emergence of that power by creating the conditions of extreme physical danger to all non-Sunni populations of the Near East who then ran to Iran for protection.

    Exactly like 1982 when in the words of my Lebanese friend: “Khomeini saved us.”

  12. fyi says:

    Irshad says:

    February 11, 2015 at 11:06 am

    Please consider this perspective:


    The reality of the situation, in my opinion, somewhere in between.

  13. James Canning says:


    Dick Cheney and his gang thought that after overthrowing Saddam Hussein, the US could then either get rid of Bashar al-Assad or pressure him into allowing the destruction of Hezbollah. And intimidation of Iran was part of the programme. There was no need, however, to “pacify” Iraq, until Jerry Bremer so foolishly disbanded the Iraqi army and security services.

  14. James Canning says:


    I think we can agree that a number of Sunni leaders in Iraq think that they have an inadequate share of power and perks, and security, relative to that taken by the Shia. Some of the Ba’athist leaders in Iraq are seeking the overthrow of both the Iraqi and Syrian governments when the Syrian government obviously is itself Ba’athist.

  15. James Canning says:


    Muslims in Britain are about 5% of the population. Perhaps 20% of the inmates of high-security prisons in Britain are Muslims. Is that what you were referring to?

  16. Karl.. says:

    James Canning

    I take it that you agree that Cameron/Hague’s policy caused this slaughter.

  17. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 11, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    The crucial question is if NATO states are willing to accept the Iranian offer, put on the table last month by Mr. Shamkhani, of dividing the Near East into spheres of influence.

    Note that the passage of time has not worked to the benefit of the NATO states; their refusal to settle with Iran in 2007 as well as to put the disposition of the West Bank on the negotiating table only has caused Iranians to march on – now committing themselves to arming the Palestinians in the West Bank.

    I personally doubt that NATO states are ready for such a settlement with Iran when they are clearly willing to flirt with nuclear war in Ukraine.

    Another day in the Halls of the Mad King…

  18. Jay says:

    Sometimes there are voices here and elsewhere that make it sound like Iran’s scientific, social and political process is non-existent. Here is a couple of excerpts from US New and World Report by Seyed Hossein Mousavian:

    First, an excerpt that is meant to touch upon how much progress has been made.

    Iran has made commendable strides in many areas since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. From 1980 to 2012, Iran’s Human Development Index (HDI) value — which takes into account lifespan, access to education and standard of living — increased by 67%, a rate of growth that was twice the global average. As of 2012, Iran’s HDI value sat at 0.742, which put the country into the “high human development category.” Access to electricity and piped water in rural areas, life expectancy, infant mortality and access to health care have all markedly improved. The literacy rate, which stood at 36% in 1976 and at just 25% for females, stands at 99% for males and females ages 15-24. Tertiary education has also never been so widely attainable by the Iranian population, with more than 2 million Iranian students enrolled at a university, over 60% of whom are women.

    Iran has also made many advances in the sciences as well: it has indigenously mastered the nuclear cycle and ranks in the top 10 countries in stem cell and cloning research; in the top 20 nations in nanotechnology, chemistry, medicine, computer science and mathematics; is the ninth country in the world with a full space program that successfully puts satellites into orbit; and is the first manufacturer in the world of eye bio-implants. Last but not least, Iran today is self-sufficient in building submarines, helicopters, fighter jets, missiles and tanks.

    Of course, there are problems…

    To be sure, Iran has a long way to go on its road to developing a better society for all Iranians. The human rights situation undoubtedly has room for ample improvements. The country is also beset by corruption, with the vice president in the Hassan Rouhani administration even saying the corruption “of the century” occurred during the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad era. High levels of inflation, unemployment and a bloated bureaucracy have also contributed to a “brain drain,” or the emigration of many educated Iranians.

    However, it is nice to know that it is not all gloom and doom, isn’t it?!

  19. Kathleen says:

    Watched the show on Sunday. I think this is Hillary’s fifth time on MHP’s over the summer, fall. MHP going where no one in the MSM has gone. Hopefully some of that polite pushing the MSM over the years to have the Leverett’s on is helping. One never knows.

    Anyway Both Hillary and Ayman Moyheldin made great points. Hillary even inferring that Obama may have been reading the last Leverett book about Iran. Maybe taking notes. I was surprised that Hillary or Ayman did not mention that many experts believe that the upper echelon of IS are right out of Saddam Hussein’s army. That the U.S. invasion basically helped create Isis.

    Really appreciated Ayman bringing up U.S. drone strikes and the killino of innocent people that barely anyone ever talks about.

    MHP is really after informing the public based on a wider fact based scope. So needed.

  20. Karl.. says:

    Remember the nuthouse Edward Lucas? That smeared the Leverett’s? Hes on again.

  21. kooshy says:

    Don’t mind Edward Lucas, he is an asshole American exceptionalist operative, who he thinks he is enduring the American empire, he is loser

  22. kooshy says:

    By the way this is not the same Lucas (Scott) which he was banned from this site, his site was Enduring America and he was tasked to propagandize and distrupt Iran’s 88 election for hope of a color regime change. He also is an asshole and an US exceptionalist.

  23. Karl.. says:

    Still dont understand why ‘the empire’ are so silent on Yemen


    Thanks, my bad, I mixed those two up. Assholes often look and smell the same.

  24. M.Ali says:

    Have you checked out Scott’s site recently? His stories were halfway insane before, but now he’s foaming at the mouth insane. Five years on, he still writes articles that claims that Ahmadinejad didn’t win the election, and the few commentators on his site are weird maniacs that hate anything to do with Iran (such as Syria), so they have to somehow either defend ISIS or claim that Iran is responsible for ISIS.

  25. Rehmat says:

    Former Israeli minister of defense, and currently a member of Israeli Knesset, Moroccan-born Cpt. Armand (Amir) Peretz in a recent interview published by Israeli news website al-Monitor said that Netanyahu’s coming speech on Iran’s nuclear threat at the US Congress wouldn’t stop US-Iran nuclear agreement.

    “Obama is undoubtedly the American president who has done more for the security of the state of Israel than all of his predecessors. The Israeli public doesn’t know that, because there is an entire network operating here, which is trying to portray him enemy of Israel. It’s important to me that Israeli public realizes that Obama contributed and continue to contribute much to Israel’s security. Netanyahu speech before Congress will not stop an agreement with Iran. It will only harm our relationship with the United States,” said Peretz.

    There is no denying to the fact that Iran’s civilian nuclear program is being contested by the so-called P5+1, particularly the US is due to push by Israel and American Jewish Lobby.

    Interestingly, America’s highest-paid Israeli lobbyist Abraham Foxman ($746,000 per year), head of criminal ADL, who never missed a chance to slam Tehran over Zionist Hasbara fabrications, has asked Netanyahu to stop his “circus” against Iran’s nuclear program. He described the idea of Netanyahu’s address to joint session of US Congress, “a tragedy of unintended consequences.” Foxman told the Jewish Daily Forward, publish February 6, that “the idea of presenting Israel’s view on Iran’s nuclear ambition has spiraled out of control, reaching even Jon Stewart (Jewish) show, a step that has turned the whole thing into circus.”


  26. Rehmat says:

    @Karl – The Empire is not silent over Yemen. Both the US and Britain have withdrawn their diplomatic staff from Sana’a and locked embassy buildings. Isn’t that a proof enough that the Zionist baby, the so-called “Arab Spring” has been defeated by pro-Iran Shia Houthi?


  27. Rehmat says:

    Former CIA counter-terrorism official Philip Geraldi has claimed that the shooting at Charlie Hebdo and Kosher market was an Israeli false flag to warn the European nations not to support the idea of an independent Palestinian state.


  28. Karl.. says:


    That is true but that sound more like a defeat, unless they plan something bigger.., but generally I think it has been very stilent about whats happening there. Maybe just me?

  29. Rehmat says:

    @Jay – Had you read some objective source, you would had learned that Iran has far less corruption than any country in the Middle East including the Zionist entity. When the western Hasbara pundits accuse some country of corruption or human-rights abuses – it means that country is trying to shed-off Zionist-controlled world New Order.

    To learn who Ahmadinejad really was – listen a American Christian writer and Radio talk-show host Mark Glenn.


  30. James Canning says:


    Are you indicating you agree that a number of Sunni leaders unhappy with the degree of power and wealth sharing by the Shia-controlled central government in Iraq, have backed Isis?

  31. James Canning says:


    What suggestions do you offer, for the way forward in Ukraine to quieten the crisis?

  32. James Canning says:


    The reason about 20% of the most violent criminals in British prisons are Muslim probably has very little to do with Blair’s foolish invasion of Iraq, or for that matter Cameron’s viewpoint on the chaos in Syria.

  33. Karl.. says:

    James Canning

    Thanks for making clear that you see muslims as a threat, not to mention that you think being muslim cause one to become a “terrorist” and or is the reason why the incident like the one linked aboved, occured.
    You can blame Tony Blair as much as you want, its not Tony Blair but Cameron that rules now, and for him you have no criticism.

  34. Rd. says:

    James Canning says:

    “The reason about 20% of the most violent criminals in British prisons”

    it sounds like your opinion has greatly been influenced by the cyber brigade;

    “With each passing day Great Britain is losing its reputation as a proud international power since becoming widely recognized for what it is – an obedient servant of Washington that is losing credibility at a record pace. Therefore, British authorities have been seeking ways to “achieve greatness.” At the same time, they realize perfectly well, given the deepening economic and social crisis in the United Kingdom,

    Great Britain Creates a Cyber Brigade to Manipulate Public Opinion

  35. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 12, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    Unless Axis Powers settle with Iran there would be more war and more bloodshed in the Near East.

    My thinking is that they will not, they are a military alliance of 1 billion people and control 2/3 of the world economy; they have every expectation of crushing Iran like a cockroach.

    Some cockroach.

  36. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 12, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    The Finland-ization of Ukraine is no longer on the table.

    Axis Powers must concede the “Sphere of Influence” of Russia or face more war and more bloodshed as they try to incur into the Russian sphere.

    The hubris of the Axis Powers is quite visible in the way that that they eviscerate good-will.

    How much was the good-will of the Rus wroth to EU or the United States?

    Evidently nothing.


    And needless to say, if Axis Powers don’t give – in the words of Mr. Hack – a rat’s ass about the goodwill of the Russian people, they certainly cannot care anything at all about the cockroaches inhabiting Iran.

    Even the late Churchill posessed more judgment than this.

  37. kooshy says:

    Karl.. says:
    February 12, 2015 at 11:34 am

    Unfortunately I predict that Yemen will become like Libya and Syria, Iraq, I think the reason the imperialist western axes has left is because they are going to start to supply the Al Qaeda side with heavy weapons to fight against a possible stabilization.
    Again I predict as a result of conflicts on almost all sides of the SKA boarders (Egypt, Bahrain, Yemen, Iraq, as well as Shieh North territory) Eventually it will become very difficult for the US and SKA to contain the destabilization outside of the SKA and small PG small state’s borders, again I predict for years to come we are going to see Proxy wars from North Africa to Hindokoush

  38. Rehmat says:

    On February 5, 2015, Barack Obama in his National Prayer Breakfast address dared to say that ISIS’s actions represent the teachings of Islam as much as the horrible crimes committed against Muslims and Jews during the Crusades and the Inquisition represented Christianity.

    “And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ,” Obama said.

    On February 6, Michael D. Shear at the Jew York Times lead the war at Obama’s ignorance of Islamic history mostly written by Jewish Orientalists and Christian Zionists. He quoted author Dr. Thomas Asbridge (University of London), saying: “Any use of the word ‘Crusade’ has to be made with great caution. It is the most highly charged word you can use in the context of the Middle East.” He also quoted Israel-First Jewish professor Deborah E. Lipstadt (Emory University), saying that the president’s remarks seemed to be an attempt to avoid alienating Muslims by blaming their religion for groups like ISIS. The remark will rightly bolster critics who insist that Mr. Obama should simply say that the United States is at war with Islam. “He has bent over backwards to try to separate this from Islam. Sometimes people try to keep an open mind. And when you have too open a mind, your brains can fall out,” she said.

    I bet Ms Lipstadt must be thinking about how her own brain fell while dealing with Yale Chaplain Rev. Bruce Shipman’s criticism of the Zionist regime last year.

    On February 7, Max Fisher, Zionist Jew editor of Vox news website posted a headline: “Let’s be clear: The Obama Crusades controversy is over whether it’s okay to hate Muslims.”

    Thomas Asbridge’s ignorance of European history can be judged by the fact that calls Franks’ eight wars on Palestine Crusades while in fact, the Christian Europe has 200 -year history Crusades against Islam. He also claims that the Crusades were waged by Christians to recover Holy Land from Muslims. In fact, the European onslaught was result of two Popes competing with each in the name of Christ.

    Arab Orientalist, late professor Edward Said called the European religious wars on Palestine “Pain in Azz”.


  39. James Canning says:


    You appear to be claiming that the presence of 9,000 Russian troops in Ukraine, abetting the civil war there, is a good thing.

  40. James Canning says:


    Your apparent belief that Obama, Cameron, Merkel and other leaders of the Western alliance would like to see Iran “crushed like a cockroach” is preposterous.

  41. James Canning says:


    I doubt that foreign policy concerns on the part of British Muslims explains why 20% of the most violent criminals in British prisons are Muslims.

    In France, 40% of the prison population are Muslims.

  42. James Canning says:


    I do not see Muslims in Britain as a “threat” in that they are Muslims. Simple fact of the matter, as FYI has observed, is that Muslims in Britain and France seem to commit crimes on a per capita rate higher considerably, that the crime rate by non-Muslims.

  43. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 13, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    Accept the Russian Sphere of Influence or be ready for World War III.

    That is the strategic choice.

    Do you want Peace or do you want Annihilation?

  44. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 13, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    That is how it looks to me.

  45. Karl.. says:


    BBC: Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko says Russia has more than 9000 soldiers and 500 tanks in conflict-torn eastern Ukraine,

    Nice that you admit that you swallow anything your BBC transmit from the warcriminal in Ukraine.
    Quite rash condemning Russia for this made up stuff taking in regard that UK have bases as far as indian ocean.

  46. Rd. says:

    James Canning says:

    “the most violent criminals ”

    you seem to suggest the majority of those in the halls of washingotn and #10 D st are violent criminals.

  47. Karl.. says:

    February 13, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    Muslims in Britain and France seem to commit crimes on a per capita rate higher considerably, that the crime rate by non-Muslims.

    You mean muslims have a gene for commiting crimes? You are making a new low for yourself by every day now James.

  48. nico says:


    “There are 2.3 million Americans in prison or jail. The U.S. has 5 percent of the world’s population but 25 percent of its prisoners. One in three black men can expect to spend time in prison. There are 2.7 million minors with an incarcerated parent. The imprisonment rate has grown by more than 400 percent since 1970.”

    It surely comes from the rampaging “nigga” gene.
    Nothing to do with growing inequality or social policies…
    (irony intenses)
    That is rich from people who eradicated native population in so many countries and made business with slavery.

    The very same people who.encouraged massive immigration in Europe for the benefit of the corporations in order to lower the wages are now condemning the Muslim “gene” or culture…
    Sure the Detroit style industrial jobs are gone in China in the globalized free world.
    No needs for the parasites anymore !
    One only needs wallstreet or the city’s job…
    Until the financial castle of cards crumbles…
    But do not worry at such time people will known who needs to be taken care of.

  49. Kooshy says:

    With the how the current situation has become in Ukraine, is safe to say that the trio European parasites thought that they will catch a piece of the American action there at no cost to them, it looks like they all thought the Russians are going to let it go again like the last color revolution in Ukraine, but unfortunately for them since predictably the Ukrainian military as well as the dysfunctional coup government failed so miserably to take control of the country they realized the cost both economically, and geo-strategically start to mount up too high all on their back and not on the Americans they rushed to apologize to Mr Putin before it completely brakes the CS’s back . On the other hand the Brits have so much of the length of the Americans deep inside them that it all is too late and too dip to pull out so they have no choice but to keep sucking on the Americans.

  50. Jay says:

    James Canning says:
    February 13, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    the extreme level of ignorance and racism displayed in this single posting is disturbing! If you cannot figure out why this statement is the height of ignorance, then you are beyond help.

  51. Empty says:


    RE: I doubt that foreign policy concerns on the part of British Muslims explains why 20% of the most violent criminals in British prisons are Muslims. In France, 40% of the prison population are Muslims.

    There is a simple solution to that. If the judicial systems in these two countries do not let the non-Muslim hard criminals go free, and if they prevent arbitrary detention of Muslims and prevent false allegations of crimes against them, then the prison population’s demographics would reflect the correct and real proportion of criminals (which I am supposing to be some 80 to 90 percent higher for non-Muslims compared to Muslims).

    You could start by putting the queen and her family in jail and follow that by Cameron and his cabinet, Blair and his accomplices, ….

    Oh, well, forget that…an impossible task….just build a heavy barbed wire fence around the entire country and let the Muslims go to other countries.
    گر حکم شود که مست گیرند ..در شهر هرآنچه هست گیرند.

  52. Karl.. says:

    Hah lets see what our brit’ say now:

    UK dispatches troop carriers to Ukraine

  53. James Canning says:


    Islam is not a “race”, and there obviously is nothing “racist” in observing that 40% of the prison population in France is Muslim.

  54. James Canning says:


    If 5% of the population of Britain is Muslim, and 20% of the most violent criminals in British prisons are Muslim, are you arguing that Muslims are less likely to be violent offenders? Very peculiar math, on your part.

  55. James Canning says:


    What is your estimate of the number of Russian soldiers in Ukraine?

  56. James Canning says:


    Are you arguing that Russia should be free to do as it wishes with Ukraine?

  57. Rehmat says:

    James Canning – but saying that 500,000 French Jews out of 60 million French population – have a majority Jewish government in France – is “racism”, right!

    And certainly, 40,000 out 7 million French Muslim population in French jails would make 40% from your ‘Made in Israel’ calculator, right!


  58. Karl.. says:


    If 5% of the population of Britain is Muslim, and 20% of the most violent criminals in British prisons are Muslim, are you arguing that Muslims are less likely to be violent offenders? Very peculiar math, on your part.

    Its getting clear that you are a fullblown racist.
    UK have had colonies all over the world causing amongst other things – genocide, does that mean that british people have a found for commiting genocides?

    As for your other question about Russian soldiers, I have no idea and who cares? – you are the one bringing it up with sources coming from a warcriminal in Kiev murdering Russians at this very moment.

    Thats my last reply to you on this.

  59. Nico says:

    Lol people seem to discover that the old fart is a racist.

  60. Nico says:

    Much like his nihilist buddy… Lol.

  61. Jay says:

    Karl.. says:
    February 14, 2015 at 2:21 pm

    James is hopelessly bigoted!

    I think he is smart enough to know that incarceration rate of a subpopulation does not translate, in a simple way, to crime rate in the same subpopulation. He knows that!!

    The only alternative left is that he is racist and bigoted.

  62. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 14, 2015 at 1:54 pm

    “Ukraine” means “Border Land” or “Border Country”.

    A border between NATO states and the strategically autonomous Russian Federation.

    After NATO states shredded the jus gentium of post World War II by destroying Yugoslavia and later Iraq and Libya, they do not seem to have expected anyone else continuing on their path.

    The Russian Federation, however, did that in Ukraine, for Reasons of State Security; contributing in her turn to the destruction of the peace prevailing between 1945 to 1991.

    The salient strategic lessons for Iranians are this: “Might makes Right” and “Survival requires Nuclear Weapons”.

  63. Kathleen says:

    Was able to get another much needed discussion going on over at the USA today of websites Huffington Post about the situation with Iran. Hope some of the heavy hitters (Leveretts could you say something over there) over here at this site come on over and chime in. important to have real discussions about this issue over at Huff Po

    Hillary and Flynt would be great to have a visit from either of you over at the comment thread. James?

    Others great way to guide people over this way too

    Iran Nuclear Negotiator Told Off By Supreme Leader: Control Your Temper With Kerry

  64. Fiorangela says:

    James Canning says:
    February 14, 2015 at 1:54 pm

    Are you arguing that Russia should be free to do as it wishes with Ukraine?

    James, should the US of Nulandia be free to do as it wishes with Ukraine?

  65. Rehmat says:

    Kathleen ….. Your Huffington Post is as much biased toward Iran as the Jewish Daily Forward.

    On January 23, 2015, Israeli newspaper Arutz Sheva published an interview with John Bolton in which he quoted Bolton saying: “I think the President has said for some time that all options are on the table with respect to Iran’s nuclear weapons program, but nobody really believes it. Worst of all, the Iranians don’t believe it.”


  66. M. Ali says:

    James Canning, you usually make a lot of one-line statements, but you never seen to be honest enough to run with it.

    So, tell us, “If 5% of the population of Britain is Muslim, and 20% of the most violent criminals in British prisons are Muslim”. Can you tell us why this so? What’s the reasoning behind this?

    Don’t let us come to our own conclusions. Tell us what this means.

  67. James Canning says:

    M. Ali,

    I assume the reason 20% of the most violent criminals in British prisons are Muslims, is simply that Muslims commit 20% of the most violent crimes in Britain.

  68. James Canning says:


    Are you arguing in effect that most Ukrainians approve of the Russian troops in Ukraine?

  69. James Canning says:


    I take it you think Russia should be free to do as it wishes with Ukraine.

  70. James Canning says:


    Do you think Serbia should have been allowed to attempt to crush the Muslim insurgency in Kosovo?

  71. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 15, 2015 at 1:37 pm


  72. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 15, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    I take it you are willing to see London go up in smoke to thwart Russia in Ukraine; a piece of territory that belonged to Russia for more than 300 years?

    Your choice; do you care more about Leeds or Sevastopol, London or Kiev?

    Because that is what strategic confrontation with the Russian Federation implies.

  73. M.Ali says:

    James, I hope you understand that you are either being dishonest or willingly ignorant.

    Facts are of no use to anyone if you don’t use them to arrive at a conclusion.

    When you say, “I assume the reason 20% of the most violent criminals in British prisons are Muslims, is simply that Muslims commit 20% of the most violent crimes in Britain.”, what is the use of stating that fact then?

    So, let me ask you this then, why do Muslims (who are 5% of the population) commit 20% of the most violent crimes in Britian?

  74. Jay says:

    M.Ali says:
    February 16, 2015 at 4:23 am

    The latest postings by James Canning put his bigoted nature on full display.

    He knows that black people are even more disproportionately incarcerated in the UK than in the United States, and that young black and/or Muslim men in Britain are stopped far more often, searched far more often, have significantly poorer legal representation, plead guilty more often, are subjected to segregation and use of force more often, …. This report is UK’s own findings: http://www.youngreview.org/reports

    Yet, he promotes this bigoted and racist falsehood with great dishonesty.

  75. James Canning says:


    If you are claiming that Muslims do not commit about 20% of the violent crime in Britain, just say so. That 20% of the persons in British prisons for violent crimes are Muslim is simply a fact.

  76. James Canning says:

    M. Ali,

    You should ask FYI why “black” Americans (“African-Americans”)commit violent crimes at a far higher rate than other Americans.

  77. James Canning says:


    We both see the grave danger posed to global security by the crisis in Ukraine. Your belief that allowing Russia to do as it pleases with Ukraine in my view would heighten the danger.

  78. James Canning says:


    You think Serbia could have crushed the Muslim insurgency in Kosovo?

  79. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 16, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    In my view, US and EU states bear major responsibility for bringing the world into this stage; threshold of nuclear war.

    The damned fools.

    The strategic lesson for Iran is this: look, the Mad King is willing to flirt with nuclear war over Ukraine, Iran needs to make sure that she is not an easy target.

  80. fyi says:


    Ambassador Matlock on Ukraine, US, and Russia:


  81. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 16, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    The Axis Powers recipe for regime change has not changed since the days of Nicaraguan Contras, the Mozambique Rebels, the Afghan Mujahedeen, and Syrian Rebels; find some thugs, given them money, and let loose on a campaign of murder and rapine.

    Which what Kosovo Liberation Army was.

    They would have tried the same thing in Iran – or perhaps they did – in Kurdistan, in Khuzestan, and in Baluchistan but evidently Iranian government forces were much more competent than they expected; the dead rebels attest to that.

    Axis Powers have destroyed the following states since the end of the Cold War:


    They have created 3 states:

    -East Timor
    -South Sudan

    All were born failed states.

    It would be best for them and others to acknowledge their inability to bring peace and prosperity to areas outside of Western Europe and North America.

    Again, the strategic lesson for Iran is that she needs to arm herself in order to preserver the cohesion of the state.

    The King is Mad, that is all we need to know.

  82. fyi says:


    Please note that had things gone well for US, UK, Spain, Georgia, Poland, and others in Iraq; Iran would have been added to the list of destroyed states.

  83. M.Ali says:

    James, you said,

    “You should ask FYI why “black” Americans (“African-Americans”)commit violent crimes at a far higher rate than other Americans”

    But I’m asking you. Why are so scared to draw any conclusions? How can we communicate if you throw down a fact and then run away.

    Be brave, old chap, Go on, I’m listening so we can discuss it further and hopefully benefit from our discourse.

  84. Kooshy says:

    “fyi says:
    February 16, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    Please note that had things gone well for US, UK, Spain, Georgia, Poland, and others in Iraq; Iran would have been added to the list of destroyed states.”


    Please also note that the reason things didn’t go well for US and her above listed client states in Iraq was IRAN. But a bigot like FYD or GAV will not want to mention or admit why and what was the reason things didn’t go well from them the very beginning meaning 1980. So don’t ever expect a troll like him or GAV ever admit to why facts.

  85. Kooshy says:

    Not had we had a different Big Bang we would have had a different planets. And may not even nights and days.
    Or if we wouldn’t have had the 1979 revolution Iran would have remained a friend of Israel and Fyd wouldn’t have to leave Iran for his brother’s hair cut problem. What kind of shit analysis is this .

  86. Sammy says:

    How I abhor these devil-worshipping incest islanders :


    HSBC Bank: Secret Origins To Laundering The World’s Drug Money
    HSBC Bank : Secret Origins To 26/11 Mumbai Attacks
    …Throughout the 19th century the British families of Matheson, Keswick, Swire, Dent, Inchcape, Baring and Rothschild controlled the Chinese heroin traffic. The Inchcape’s and Baring’s Peninsular & Orient Steam Navigation Company (PONC) transported the dope around the world.

    To the US West Coast, the families brought Chinese coolies to build JP Morgan’s railroads, slave laborers who were kidnapped (shanghaied) by the Triads. The Triads came along too, setting up opium dens in San Francisco and Vancouver and using a network of Chinatowns as a channel for heroin. This network exists today. To the US East Coast the families brought African slaves and cotton. These same families built plantations and became kings of southern cotton on the backs of shanghaied Africans.

    The American families Perkins, Astor and Forbes made millions off the opium trade. The Perkins’ founded Bank of Boston, which is today known as Credit Suisse First Boston. The Perkins and Morgan families endowed Harvard University. William Hathaway Forbes was a director at Hong Kong Shanghai Bank shortly after it was founded in 1866. John Murray Forbes was the US agent for the Barings banking family, which financed most of the early drug trade. The Forbes family heirs later launched Forbes magazine. Steve Forbes ran for President in 1996. John Jacob Astor invested his opium proceeds in Manhattan real estate and worked for British intelligence. The Astor family home in London sits opposite Chatham House.

    These families launched the Hong Kong Shanghai Bank Corporation (HSBC) after the second Opium War as a repository for their opium proceeds. HSBC, a subsidiary of the London-based HSBC Holdings, today prints 75% of Hong Kong’s currency, while the British Cecil Rhodes-founded Standard Chartered Bank prints the rest. HSBC’s Hong Kong headquarters sits next to a massive Masonic Temple….

  87. James Canning says:


    the moron in the White House allowed Jerry Bremer to disband the Iraqi army and security services, and thereby set up chaos and civil war in Iraq that still continues.

  88. James Canning says:

    M. Ali,

    One obvious aspect of the problem you note, is simply that the women least qualified to raise children tend to have the most children to raise. Agreed?

  89. James Canning says:


    Are you arguing that the invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union in 1979 did not do a good deal to bring about the “destruction” of that country?

  90. James Canning says:


    I very much doubt that Germany, France, Italy, and other countries plotted to harm Serbia by fomenting Muslim insurgency in Kosovo.

  91. James Canning says:


    You appear to argue that the EU should accept Russian military intervention in Ukraine’s civil war.

  92. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 17, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    You can doubt as much as you like; I guess the uniforms of the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army grew on trees?

  93. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 17, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    If EU states do not like the situation in Ukraine, they are welcome to put 200,000 men under arms and to decisively intervene there on behalf of the Kiev government.

    In other words, they are welcome to go to the Widow Maker; that is indeed an option that is greatly in the interests of Iran and indeed the entire Shia Crescent.

  94. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    February 17, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    Superpowers destroyed Afghanistan.

    And the Afghans were foolish enough to fight others’ wars for them; like the Syrians today, and the Cambodians 40 years ago.

  95. M.Ali says:

    “James Canning says:
    February 17, 2015 at 1:37 pm
    M. Ali,

    One obvious aspect of the problem you note, is simply that the women least qualified to raise children tend to have the most children to raise. Agreed?”

    I’m assuming you mean that Muslim women are least qualified to raise children?

  96. Karl.. says:


    Any reason why you ignored to mention UKs interventions and war in Afghanistan that destroyed that country greatly?

  97. Kooshy says:

    James Canning says:
    February 17, 2015 at 1:34 pm
    “the moron in the White House allowed Jerry Bremer to disband the Iraqi army and security services,”

    Gav- the moron in White House including your morons in Whitehall didn’t have no choice but to disband what was left of the army which was defeated and not loyal to the US goals and had already left for home, besides what could they do, what you call Iraqi army was much like shah’s army the officers were just a private personal security service for their rulers and not the country if they were nationalist, they wouldn’t have obeyed Saddam or jerry Beamer that’s why the Americans didn’t need them. Don’t repeat this shit reasoning again, people like Sardar Haj Ghassem will chuckle. Why the shit head westerners need to blame their incompetence on somebody else’s. With or without Iraqi army you already had lost Iraq back in 92 like you already have lost Bahrain deal with it. I predict you will be completely out of ME in five years I can explain how and why if you want.

  98. Rehmat says:

    On January 25, 2015, Israeli president Reuven Rivlin made a history. He became the first Zionist president to address 2,500 Black Zionist Christians gathered inside Brooklyn’s Christian Cultural Center. The congregation is lead by Center’s founder pastor A. R. Bernard.

    Rivlin said that Jews and blacks have a shared history of struggle, and warned against Holocaust denial.

    Rivlin in his self-denial forgot that both European Jews and African slaves were victims of the Organized Jewry. Rabbi Wolf Gunther Plaut, former president of Canadian Jewish Congress (CJC) and Chief Rabbi at Toronto’s Holy Blossom Temple in his 1990 book, ‘The Man Who Would Be Messiah‘, accused Frankist Jews for committing the Holocaust. Furthermore, Canadian-born Israeli author and blogger, Barry Chamish, has claimed that Zionism was created by Frankist Jews to destroy the Jews who follow Moses Law (Torah) instead of Jewish Talmud.

    One doesn’t need a PhD to find out that Jews played a significant role in both Black and White slave trade. Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael in book, Jews and Judaism in the United States: A Documentary History, wrote that Jews took an active part in Dutch colonial African slave trade. Netherlands Rabbi Lody van de Kamp in book, The Jewish Slave, also confirms slaves blood on Jewish hands.

    Jews owned, insured, and financed slave ships and outfitted them with chains and shackles for the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. They were auctioneers, commission merchants, brokers, and wholesalers, keeping the slave economy oiled with money, markets, and supplies. Christopher Columbus – whose Trans-Atlantic exploits initiated the brutal genocide of the Red-man and forecasted the African Holocaust – was financed by wealthy Spanish Jews and is claimed by some scholars to be a Jew himself.


  99. Empty says:

    RE: One obvious aspect of the problem you note, is simply that the women least qualified to raise children tend to have the most children to raise. Agreed?”

    Actually, this is a point that could be used to draw a parallel about another subject. Every time you post a shallow, pointless comment without substance and merit, imagine yourself having just given birth to a child. If you find yourself unable to tend to your post or defend it or elaborate on it or substantiate it (which you have never been able to do), exercise contraception and refrain from producing comments. Remember, don’t breathe, don’t breathe, don’t push. It’s just a gas and it will pass.

  100. fyi says:


    Ambassador Freeman on China and the Middle East


  101. Jay says:

    M.Ali says:
    February 17, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    Talking about qualification to raise children….


    Enjoy the chant by the Brits … “We are racists and that’s the way we like it!”

  102. James Canning says:


    Clearly you are unaware that educated “black” women in the US have small families, generally.

  103. James Canning says:


    Disbanding the state power apparatus to me was obviously insane. George W. Bush and his entire team, prior to the US invasion, agreed the power apparatus in Iraq would be kept intact, to prevent civil war. You apparently are not aware Bush himself overlooked the issue, at the time Jerry Bremer made his colossal blunder.

  104. James Canning says:


    I have noted a number of times that the Afghan government backed by the Soviet Union tried to implement important reforms, including educating women. I also have said that Jimmy Carter did not understand the reasons the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1979.

  105. James Canning says:

    M. Ali,

    No. Most poor American “blacks” are not Muslims.

  106. James Canning says:


    I think the catastrophe that befell Afghanistan was put into motion by the overthrow of the monarchy (by the cousin of the king). Very very sad indeed.
    Appalling catastrophe of Syria owes a great deal to the Israel/Palestine problem, in my view.

  107. Karl.. says:


    I have noted a number of times that the Afghan government backed by the Soviet Union tried to implement important reforms, including educating women. I also have said that Jimmy Carter did not understand the reasons the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1979.

    And exactly what does that have to do with my question why you omitted UK wars and intervention in Afghanistan? I take it that you are embarassed by UKs destruction of Afghanistan.

  108. Jay says:

    Karl.. says:
    February 18, 2015 at 1:35 pm

    “And exactly what does that have to do with my question ….”

    Absolutely nothing to do with it! James was caught singing “I am a racist and that’s the way I like it!”. Now he is kicking up a lot of dust with several irrelevant on-liners to distract attention and change the conversation.

  109. kooshy says:

    Commentary: Uncle Sam: anti-terror leader or terrorist breeder?
    English.news.cn 2015-02-17 10:34:50
    By Xinhua writer Luo Jun

    “BEIJING, Feb. 17 (Xinhua) — On the world stage, the United States has assumed anti-terror leadership since the deadly Sept. 11 attack in 2001, yet underneath its glossy surface, Uncle Sam seemed to have a secret identity as a terrorist breeder.”


    To be more accurate this writer must have add the US’s European parasites UK, France and the captured Germany as the main breeders and state sponsors of terrorism.

  110. kooshy says:

    James Canning says:
    February 18, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    “Disbanding the state power apparatus to me was obviously insane. George W. Bush and his entire team, prior to the US invasion, agreed the power apparatus in Iraq would be kept intact, to prevent civil war”


    I think you are incapable or you don’t care to understand I don’t care which it is. It didn’t matter what war criminals like George Bush or Tony Blair agreed or wanted prior or after the invasion of Iraq. Even if they were able to keep what was left of the Iraqi army there was nothing more they could do that they did with their over 160000 men well trained and equipped armies. What it mattered then and, matters now, is that majority of the Iraqi’s wouldn’t accept or want this western criminals there in their country. This is something the westerners are incapable or refuse to understand, this is the exact mentality of the exceptionalism which is built up in western mentality. The mentality that the westerner thinks we are so good and we mean so good and we know what is good, so how come we are not liked, and praised for what we mean, so this must be the fault and short coming of the other side which is not accepting our good means, and is not that they don’t understand it’s because they are evils.

  111. Sammy says:

    kooshy says:
    February 18, 2015 at 3:23
    ..yet underneath its glossy surface, Uncle Sam seemed to have a secret identity as a terrorist breeder.”

    kooshyjan, here more about the disgusting hypocrisy of uncle scam :


    “Not that it was really a conspiracy ‘theory’ but with General Wesley Clark (ret.) now openly admitting “ISIS got started through funding from our friends and allies… to fight to the death against Hezbollah” it appears the ‘angel investors’ cat is out of the bag. Adding that “they recruited the zealots and religious fundamentalists” Clark says ‘we’ create “Frankenstein.” He is careful not to name names, but we ask (rhetorically of course), which of our (oil-bearing) allies has the biggest bone to pick with Hezbollah (apart from Israel of course)?..

  112. Rd. says:

    Now are all the caliphets trying to join forces? would they take turn to be the big caliph? or they plan to share??? a lot of egos trying to make the soup!

    “Riyadh has seen a flurry of diplomatic activity from the Gulf in the past few days amid talk of changes in Saudi foreign policy under King Salman bin Abdulaziz. The new policy would be geared toward establishing a Sunni alliance against Iran and mending fences with Turkey, Qatar, and the Muslim Brotherhood.”


  113. Kooshy says:

    “Riyadh has seen a flurry of diplomatic activity from the Gulf in the past few days amid talk of changes in Saudi foreign policy under King Salman bin Abdulaziz. The new policy would be geared toward establishing a Sunni alliance against Iran and mending fences with Turkey, Qatar, and the Muslim Brotherhood.”

    I wouldn’t call this a Sunni alliance, there is no Sunni alliance against Iran, this analysis and terminology is a western MSM diversion, like how and what FYD says and anal-isis on this site.
    To me the correct terminology for this initiative is an “alliance of western client states in the ME region” which is nothing new and has been in existence since 1979, this new scary news is probably inspired and most likely formulated by US and her European client’s information services.
    Never less at the end of the day it will make no difference, or will change nothing. It shows that their desperation is accelerating which is a real good news.

  114. fyi says:


    Ambassador Martin Indyk – II:


    In my opinion, Axis Powers will try option number II and fail even more miserably but not before causing a lot of grief.

  115. fyi says:

    Rd. says:

    February 18, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    It is the old American game; frightening Arabs to get them to accept the Jewish Fantasy Project in Palestine.

    This time the monsters are ISIS and the Shia Crescent.

    They have tried and failed in this for 70 years, this time it will not be any exception.

  116. kooshy says:

    Re: Mr. Freeman article / speech fyd posted earlier
    IMO it’s a correct analysis to think that all this mayhem in the world specially in ME is all started and is to be blamed on the US and her western European and Arab client states, again IMO this is true that US’ and also USSR’ insecure, wrong altitude, misunderstanding, misperception, lack of tolerance, and above all wrong remedies are all the reason for their wrong judgments and accordingly adopting wrong policies to stop and slow the one true revolution in ME which is the Iran’ Islamic revolution of 1979. If this collectively western (that includes the soviet Russians) idiots didn’t adopt a stop and roll back of Iran’ revolution policy, they wouldn’t have all this mess they created on their hand and not so many innocents including some of their own been vanished, this intense version of the ME mayhem it all started in 1979 for a continued structured hegemony on where three continents and two oceans collide.

  117. Rd. says:

    fyi says:

    “Ambassador Martin Indyk – II:
    In my opinion, Axis Powers will try option number II and fail even more miserably but not before causing a lot of grief.”

    “Faced with rising chaos, Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and the other Arab monarchies have developed a common sense of threat from Iran, Hezbollah, Assad, Hamas, and ISIS. In response, they have found a strong common interest in countering these principle sources of instability in the region. “

    If you know Martin, please find out what kinda drugs he is on! His hallucination is a mirage. This smoke and screen is not about bringing order to ME, is it????

    Is it not about maintaining dis-order and chaos so they can continue suppressing the inevitable growth and advancement (independence) of the region, as Iran has proven to be possible?

    An independent ME region with its own ‘islamic’ identity would likely be the final nail in their coffin.! Since loosing Iran, they have tried in vein to dominate ME. That effort has proven to be futile. Now it seems they are only interested in sewing discord amongst the entire region to suppress its inevitable rise(independence).

    Once there are sufficient power centers around the world (China, ME, SA, Russia) the illusion of superiority and exceptionalism are out the door. Not so much for the rest of the world, but for their own people, who will eventually ask, where is the money?

    For now their idiotic caliphs in turkey, lil’ emirates and saudi are the best fools to carry that mirage.

  118. fyi says:

    Rd. says:

    February 19, 2015 at 10:45 am

    I think that the Islamic identity of the Middle East has never been seriously in dispute.

    I think the wider question is if that Islamic Identity can rise up to the tasks of responding to the world today which is largely constructed by Christian Europeans.

    Personally, I doubt that Arabs or Pakistanis or Indonesians can rise up to that challenge.

    My hope is that Turkey & Iran, each in their own way, would contribute to the development of a new path for Muslim polities.

    A multipolar world, however desirable politically, will not resolve the fundamental issue of Muslim Polities; having been in slumber for 800 years as compared to the European peoples.

  119. Rehmat says:

    Eli Wiesel, the Holocaust myth-maker, has been running a vicious campaign against Islamic Republic of Iran based on Israel’s propaganda lies for over a decade now.

    Last week, both the Jew York Times and Washington Post ran an open letter by Wiesel supporting Zionist entity’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s forthcoming speech to a joint session of US Congress. In it, Wiesel makes two assertions, neither of which he makes any effort to prove. The first is that the United States and Iran are on the verge of a new Jewish Holocaust deal. What makes a deal so terrible which hasn’t even been signed yet?

    The second is that a nuclear Iran would likely mean “the annihilation and destruction of Israel.” This, too, requires evidence that Wiesel does not provide. After all, Benny Gantz, who just retired as Chief of Staff of the Israel Occupation Forces (IOF) has argued that while an Iranian nuke would be dangerous, “The Iranian leadership is composed of very rational people.”

    Iran’s nuclear program is entirely peaceful. No evidence suggest that it’s being used for military purpose. However, Israel and Jewish lobby groups refuse to stop their lies about Iran’s intentions even though Iranian leaders have repeated on several occasions that WMDs are forbidden under Islamic Shari’ah.


  120. Rehmat says:

    fyi – “A multipolar world, however desirable politically, will not resolve the fundamental issue of Muslim Polities; having been in slumber for 800 years as compared to the European peoples.”

    Was it 800 years the Ottoman empire died when the Zionist entity was created in 1948?


  121. fyi says:

    Rehmat says:

    February 19, 2015 at 11:43 am

    I suggest you perform the following exercise:

    Find out who the inventor of aspirin was.

    Next find out who was his teacher/trainer in the field of medicine or medicinal chemistry or pharmacology.

    Find out who that teacher’s teachers were in the same field.

    In this manner work your way back through the past decades and centuries.

    Until you find a Muslim physician or druggist.

    Let us all know in what century that man had lived.

  122. fyi says:

    Rehmat says:

    February 19, 2015 at 11:37 am

    Yes, as a Champion of Human Rights, he is a fraud.

    He is just another tribalist; outside of his tribe, there are no human beings with any rights.

  123. James Canning says:


    I agree with you that the US was foolish to appear to be controlling Iraq, or trying to control it, after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. This is the core reason George W. Bush was such an idiot when he allowed Jerry Bremer to disband the Iraqi army and security services.

    Some of the neocons who conspired to set up the illegal invasion of Iraq expected to gain great wealth, provided the Sunni power structure was eliminated after Saddam’s overthrow.

  124. M.Ali says:

    “James Canning says:
    February 18, 2015 at 1:25 pm
    M. Ali,

    No. Most poor American “blacks” are not Muslims.”

    James, weren’t we talking about your 20% Muslims in UK jails fact? What has black Americans got to do with any of this? Have you confused me with someone else or are you purposely being shifty so that you don’t make any definite statements?

    Do you know what people in Iran call someone who acts sneaky and cunning when talking?
    An Englishman.

  125. James Canning says:


    I think the catastrophe that has befallen Afghanistan has little to do with Britain.
    The catastrophe has a good deal to do with the US, of course.

  126. James Canning says:


    Identify a single “racist” comment you claim I have made.

  127. Karl.. says:


    Of course nothing has to do with UK, not even when UK attacked multiple times starting from the year 1839, but of course you are going to deny that.

  128. Karl.. says:

    M Ali

    James, weren’t we talking about your 20% Muslims in UK jails fact? What has black Americans got to do with any of this? Have you confused me with someone else or are you purposely being shifty so that you don’t make any definite statements?

    Apparently, if it isnt “20% dangerous iranian uranium” it is “20% dangerous muslims in prisons”.

  129. Jay says:

    James Canning says:
    February 19, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    “Identify a single “racist” comment you claim I have made.”

    It is more accurate to say that you are bigoted. Although the term racist is sometimes used as a synonym for bigoted, I apologize for not using the clearer word (bigoted).

  130. Rd. says:

    Interesting comments by the Egyptian FM, Sameh Shoukry with charlie rose;

    0:22 min

    CR: .. Iran, .. is being viewed as part of the conflict in the region between the moderate sunni countries, like Egypt, Jordan, UA….

    FM: It is unfortunate, it is one of the aftermaths of the decades of intervention in Iraq which has highlighted the sectarian rifts in the region. But we have to look at the part, these rifts were not so apparent nor they were as impactful as they are now. We have to dig into this to find out what is the cause, why this sectarian rift that has suddenly appeared and is being ….. I don’t want to say promoted …. but is coming under greater focus.

    0:33 min

    CR: In Syria, should the region continue to support the moderate rebels or should the priority be on isi?

    FM: it is a complicated situation in Syria, we have to deal with it in that perspective, there has to be a resolution to impact the threat of terrorism that has risen in this vacuum. This can only be dealt with by the Syrian people themselves. There needs to be a political dialogue and frame work so they can regain the unity of the government and then direct attention to isis.

    CR: Would you say Syria was a place where arab spring was hijacked by ……… a radical islamists forces?

    FM: it is complicated,,… but not by islamic forces, rather by undo external attentions and the idea of fragmentations. Arab spring was totally Egyptian development. It can not be said in relation to Syria. There were more elements in play there than in Egypt, so it was beyond arab spring in Syria


  131. Rehmat says:

    fyi – I got a reflection. All Zionist idiots should study David Brook’s chest-beating about Jewish-Israeli great achievements.


  132. Rehmat says:

    British Sir Martin Gilbert died on February 3, 2015 at the age 79. He was knighted for projecting British war-time prime minister Sir Winston Churchill as some sort of Western “Saint” in a 24-volume (25,000 pages) Churchill’s biography for supported the World Zionist movement agenda in the Middle East.

    Martin Gilbert was born in London on October 25, 1936 into a Russian Zionist Jewish family. A self-claimed “historian” he authored nearly 80 books on Jewish-Muslim relations as seen through the eyes of a racist Zionist Jews. In Ishamael’s House: A History of Jews in Muslim Lands, Gilbert claims that Jews were the most oppressed people under Islamic rule since the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) established the first Islamic City State in Madina in 624 CE.

    Gilbert’s lies about Islamic history has been debunked by Jewish Orientalist Dr. Bernard Lewis, Israeli president Ephraim Katzir (1973-78), Rabbi Allen S. Maller, Israeli Rabbi Baruch Efrati, former UNHRC special envoy Richard Falk, to name a few.


  133. fyi says:

    Rehmat says:

    February 20, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    If I were you, I would concentrate on developing a theory of Ruh Al Qudus within Islam rather than obsessing with Western Jews.

    Think and create….

  134. Karl.. says:

    February 20, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    Were the “secular iranians” (before circa 1979) more creative than the “religious” of today?

  135. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    February 20, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    You do not understand Muslims and Jews – the so-called “secular” ones are those that do not obsess with minutiae of rituals of their religions, and believe that everyone is “saved” and there is no need to fuss about God’s Will. Both groups have a culture (i.e the way people live) that is infused with principles of their respective religions but is distinct from that religion, be it Islam or Judaism.

    Japan and China have been irreligious countries – “secular” in your parlance – but uncreative for centuries; specially Korea and Japan that copied almost everything from China – until Chinese creativity sputtered and ended.

    On the other hand, religious Christian Thinkers, such as St. Thomas of Aquinas and Dons Scotous, spent centuries thinking creatively on how to comprehend the Created World in the Light of the (Christian) Revelations.

    Religion, per se, in my opinion, is irrelevant to exercise of creativity.

    Specific religious traditions might have features in them that encourage thinking and creativity.

    Is it an accident (a contingency) that almost all philosophers of Islam have been Shia?

    Is it an accident that all Jihadists are Sunnis?

  136. James Canning says:


    Muslims are 4.5% of the population of Britain. Muslims comprise 10% of the children born in Britain. And 20% of the most violent offenders in British prisons. Is one “bigoted” to note these facts?

  137. Karl.. says:


    “Religion, per se, in my opinion, is irrelevant to exercise of creativity.”

    I thought that your argument with Rehmat was that of Smith – that muslims have no creativity and thus not create anything? Or what was your argument?

  138. Jay says:

    James Canning says:
    February 20, 2015 at 1:22 pm

    James, you did not simply “note” anything! The totality of your comments about African-Americans, women, and muslims in this one thread of conversation is replete with hues of racism and bigoted thinking. I am giving you credit for not being ignorant – because that is the other option!

  139. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    February 20, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    I have no arguments with anyone.

    I have made empirical observations of the past and present history.

  140. Karl.. says:


    What about the empirical evidence forward of 1979 for Iran, bad/negative progress concering this issue?

  141. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    February 20, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    I think actually because of the sanctions against Iran, followed by the war to destroy Islamic Republic, Iranians became more creative and enterprising and resourceful in certain narrow areas having to do with defense, IT, etc.

    The crucial thing for Iranians is to learn to extend that creativity and resourcefulness to the rest of their polity – to fiercely alter their current culture to one that values innovation, enterprise, rationality (as opposed to emotionalism) and empiricism in all things.

    1979 was not the break – the Iran-Iraq War was the break which separated Iranians from all other Muslim polities (including Turkey) as well as from their own recent past.

    I think the next break came occurred between 2010 to 2014 – when Iranians were subjected to a full economic war by US, EU in order to eviscerate their economy.

    Screams of “un-fair sanctions” are now being replaced by “waging full economic war..”.

    Truly, Axis Powers, Russia, China, and India have taught very bitter but nevertheless very valuable lessons to Iran and the Iranian people whose effects will be seen in the coming years and decades.

  142. Rehmat says:

    Last month, Pat Buchanan claimed that Iran became a regional power as result of Israel’s proxy wars fought by the United States in the Middle East.


  143. Rehmat says:

    fyi – I don’t want to be a Zionist Jews like you who have corrupted Moses’ Law into Holocaust faith.

    David Cole is not an “anti-Semite” or “revisionist”. He is ardently pro-Zionist, pro-Israel Jew. He is author of book Republican Party Animal. In his latest article, entitled Justifying My Existence, published at TAKI’s Magazine on February 17, 2015, he wrote: I attempt to correct the historical record regarding the Holocaust, primarily by sniffing out and exposing fake artifacts and fraudulent or improperly-used documents.

    In no other field are fakes, frauds, and forgeries tolerated as they are in Holocaust history. And in no other field are the people who try to sort the fakes from the facts so ruthlessly attacked and in many countries imprisoned, David Cole added.


  144. fyi says:

    Rehmat says:

    February 20, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    Your repeated appeals to Jewish or Axis Powers sources to bolster your opinions and statements clearly demonstrates the paucity of intellectual development and attendant scholarship among Muslims and Muslim countries.

    I wonder how many Muslims have actually ever read the Old Testament or are familiar with its theology?

  145. Karl.. says:

    “Norman Finkelstein and Paul Jay discuss a full-page ad in the NYT that says Israel is condemned by liberals for human rights violations while it defends gay rights, and less is said about the persecution of gays by Iran, Hamas and ISIS”


  146. James Canning says:


    You think it “racist” to note that poorly educated “black” women in the US tend to produce far more children than educated “black” women? Bill Cosby is a “racist”, in your book?

  147. Kathleen says:

    Pathetic on Friday’s MSNBC Hardball (Steve Korancki in for Chris Matthews) had Iraq warmonger Kenneth Pollack on as a guest to discuss IS. Kenneth Pollack is also US Gov ! in the Aipac espionage investigation/ trial that was dismissed. Now why would a news outlet have on an alleged expert guest who was so knowingly wrong about Iraq. Pushing his book about Iran “Unthinkable” This guy should be on trial for his role in the push for the invasion of Iraq and his role in the Aipac espionage case.

    Have begged MSNBC Hardball team to have the Leverett’s on….they just do not have the cajones to do so.

  148. Jay says:

    James Canning says:
    February 21, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    James, let me repeat in case the previous 3 sentences were too long by your on-liner standards:

    The totality of your comments about African-Americans, women, and muslims in this one thread of conversation is replete with hues of racism and bigoted thinking.

  149. fyi says:

    Kathleen says:

    February 21, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    You are dealing with a degenerated situation; things have to get worse before they get better.

  150. James Canning says:


    I think we need you to be more specific. Do you regard a statement of fact, that “black” women in the US who are badly educated, produce double the number of children, or more, than well-educated “black” women, is something that should be avoided? Do you condemn Bill Cosby for his many comments that too many “black” single women produce too many children?

  151. Jay says:

    James Canning says:
    February 22, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    These words are new. This is a new comment that is of a different nature from your earlier bigoted comments.

    And, to be more specific, education and standard of living are important components in proper family planning practices. This happens to be the case regardless of race – it is true for all women. There is no need to select out black women.

    Back to bigotry… for millennia, the standard approach to deride an unprivileged class has been to point out some aspects of their less than desirable traits – as if those traits were exclusive to the underprivileged class. I recognize bigotry, and no matter how well-intentioned or paternalistic, it is still bigotry.

  152. fyi says:

    Jay says:

    February 22, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    When the state – as an act of charity – provided sustenance for women with children out of wedlock, it ushered in a period of freedom of responsibility for men; in US, in UK, in Sweden, in Norway etc.

    In US, the African-Americans were demanding money from the state, and the sate kept on giving it to them hoping that they would go away.

    They did not, they became, in effect, wards of the state with little incentive to maintain family structure or work ethic.

    The African-Americans were the weakest community in US in terms of internal resources; they were the first to experience family disintegration and massive criminality due to absence of fathers.

    What happened to African-Americans in US was repeated in France and UK with the second and third generation of Muslim immigrants.

    The continuation of anti-family (anti-male) practices of the Welfare states in US, UK, Sweden, Norway, Italy has now reached the people of European stock as well; the same family disintegration and attendant rise in criminality and poverty is being experienced by Euro-American populations in US as well as their European counterparts is UK, Sweden, Norway, Italy.

    Men cannot live without work and family structures in productive manner – this is something that Bureaucratic Socialism of the Welfare state never understood or was loathe to admit – that men as autonomous sane individuals capable of “Making Himself” is a very dangerous myth.

  153. Jay says:

    fyi says:
    February 22, 2015 at 4:08 pm


    your observations with respect to the harm done to certain sectors of society is a debate about the actions of state, or men in charge of state, and how those actions have resulted in devaluation of individuals and their ability to contribute. It is a worthy discussion, but one that transcends racial, religious and ethnic boundaries.

    Pointing to those whose position in society (or world) was undermined by actions of the state and assert, albeit indirectly, a faulty character, is what I found objectionable. It is similar to similar assertions James makes about Iran, Russia, etc. etc. – blaming the consequences on those upon whom the circumstances were imposed.

  154. Karl.. says:


    Since UK have pretty much colonized the whole world past centuries in sum, would you deny that british people are a violent people?

  155. James Canning says:


    Bill Cosby spent decades condemning the production of children by single American black” women who lacked education etc etc etc. Was Cosby being a “bigot”, when he obviously was trying to reduce the problem?

  156. James Canning says:


    If you had any knowledge of Britain, you would know that on the whole it is a very tranquil place.

  157. James Canning says:


    Provide me with ONE example of an attack by me on the “character” of Iran or Russia.

  158. Karl.. says:


    If you had any knowledge of Britain, you would know that on the whole it is a very tranquil place.

    If you had any knowledge of the english language you should be able to reply to my simple question =
    Since UK have pretty much colonized the whole world past centuries in sum, would you deny that british people are a violent people?

    Maybe you do now even think colonization is a violent matter? Is that your view James?