Hillary Mann Leverett on U.S. Policy Toward the Islamic State and the Folly of Sanctioning Russia



This weekend, Hillary went on MSNBC’s Melissa Harris-Parry  to discuss the Obama administration’s fumbling response to the Islamic State (see here and here or click on videos above) and the West’s rising tensions with Russia over Ukraine (see here or click on videos above).  Regarding the calls for the Obama administration to expand the current U.S. air campaign against IS targets in northern Iraq into Syria as well, Hillary recounts

“I remember a year ago this weekend.  I was on a different program [see here], and I said, ‘Wait a minute.  Don’t go bomb Assad’s military in Syria, because they’re one of the only militaries that’s fighting ISIS.  We’ll essentially be al-Qa’ida or ISIS’ air force if we do so.’  The president was correct, even though he took a lot of backlash, not to bomb Assad’s army last year, and he’s probably correct not to [mount a bombing campaign against ISIS] this year, because that’s exactly what ISIS wants—they want the United States back in, full throttle, to send hundreds of thousands of troops back and make this an all-out war with the United States to take over their swath of the Middle East.”

And, while Obama’s surely more-revealing-than-he-intended acknowledgment, “We don’t have a strategy,” was maladroit in the extreme, Hillary reminds,

“In the Bush administration, we forget, but it took the administration about a month to come up with plans to attack Afghanistan.  They also had no strategy, even though al-Qa’ida had been attacking us for six years, from 1995 on.  We knew al-Qa’ida, we knew Afghanistan, but we had no strategy.

My concern is that the president—and it isn’t just the president, but it’s the entire foreign policy elite and bureaucracy—has not learned a thing since 9/11.  Here we are—we know Iraq, we had 150,000 troops there, we were there for years, we bombed that country for a long time.  We know the situation, and we still don’t have a strategy…

If there were a strategy, it would actually tell the American public the hard things they need to hear, which is that you don’t partner with, align with, have coalitions just with countries that have like-minded, so-called ‘values.’  You deal with countries as they are—like Iran and Assad’s Syria, who are the only governments in the region fighting ISIS.  And to have this policy that keeps them in the ground is enormously destructive to the United States.”

Hillary points out another serious defect in the U.S. policy discussion—namely, political and policy elites’ collective and willful refusal to acknowledge that the Islamic State has popular support:

“A Saudi-funded newspaper, Al Hayat, did a poll in Saudi Arabia, of Saudi public opinion.  They found that 92 percent of Saudis believe that ISIS conforms to their view of Islamic values and Islamic law.  So we have our head in the sand—that this makes no sense, everybody hates [ISIS], and we can recruit our Sunni autocracies as allies to fund even more Sunni militants to deal with this.  That is insane…

[T]o the extent that we support governments, like the Saudi government, that Saudis themselves and ISIL have as their target—their target is to bring down the Saudi government, to bring down the other Gulf autocracies and take over the heart of the Hijaz, Mecca and Medina—to the extent we are sending $60 billion in weapons systems to Saudi Arabia, ISIS has us in their sights.  Remember that the execution of [James] Foley happened not just because they were looking to kill an American, but when we started bombing them in Iraq.  It’s a very deliberate, sophisticated military strategy.”

On Russia and Ukraine, Hillary offers up the critically important but almost universally avoided truth about the self-damaging quality of America’s increasingly promiscuous resort to financial sanctions as a foreign policy tool (a truth that can also be made with reference to U.S. policy toward Iran):

“Not that I would agree to use force, but President Obama preemptively, almost immediately, and repeatedly has taken force off the table, and has said that we’re essentially going to rely on sanctions—sanctions that have not affected Russian calculations, and we have no basis to believe they will affect Russian calculations.  What we do know about sanctions is that it will be extremely counterproductive for us.  It will accelerate the replacement of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency.  We’ve seen Russia and China coming closer together, the increase in the Chinese currency, the RMB, [becoming] more accepted internationally.  And once foreigners stop wanting the dollar, we’re done as a superpower.”

But that’s where the flailing and failing American hegemon seems determined to go.

–Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann Leverett

 

285 Responses to “Hillary Mann Leverett on U.S. Policy Toward the Islamic State and the Folly of Sanctioning Russia”

  1. Pirouz says:

    So I’ve a question:

    Instead of U.S. airpower partnering with Iraq and Syria government ground forces, their regional allies and their pro-government militia allies, against Islamic State… what exactly should the United States be doing?

    I’m interested to read a general, road map for success.

    That said, I’m extremely skeptical that make-nice diplomacy alone can do away with IS. I’ve more confidence in a replay of the aerial bombardment of OEF with its ground-force partnership with United Front, or even the U.S. aerial bombardment with ARVN that turned back the Easter Offensive in 1972.

    I admit the two historical examples ultimately, in the longer run, rendered less than successful results. But presently, we have a potential regional partner–Iran–that might make all the difference. It’s as if in 1972, PRC became a regional partner against NLF (far fetched, I admit), or if in 2002 we hadn’t backstabbed IRI as an element of “Axis of Evil.”

  2. Neil M says:

    Thank you again, Leveretts.
    Like the article preceding it, this one is a refreshing departure from the insanity to which the so-called “international community” (of US puppets in the West) has shackled itself. I particularly like the quip about “al-CIA-da’s airforce.”

    Obama could MAKE MY DAY by putting a neocon in front of a gaggle of reporters, cameras and microphones and giving us a very stern, but awfully sincere, lecture about the “reality-based community.”

  3. fyi says:

    Pirouz says:

    September 1, 2014 at 12:23 am

    Partnership with Iran is no longer even a potential; it lies decades into the future – if even then.

    We are still in the middle of Axis Powers war against the Shia – that has not changed.

    Until that war is dismantled even tactical cooperation is not possible.

  4. fyi says:

    Neil M says:

    September 1, 2014 at 1:07 am

    There is no scope for a turn around in the remainder of Mr. Obama’s presidency which started with so much hope; a wrecked Libya, a wounded Syria, a bleeding Iraq, and a sieged Iran – together with an unravelling Afghanistan.

    To that list must be added the unwinnable coercion against the Russian Federation and provocations against People’s Republic of China.

    A re-assessment US geopolitical aims is certainly in order; right now she is making more and more enemies while not showing any gains.

  5. fyi says:

    All:

    Dr. Kissinger on US strategy:

    http://online.wsj.com/articles/henry-kissinger-on-the-assembly-of-a-new-world-order-1409328075

    We read:

    ” What do we (US) seek to prevent, no matter how it happens, and if necessary alone?

    What do we seek to achieve, even if not supported by any multilateral effort?

    What do we seek to achieve, or prevent, only if supported by an alliance?

    What should we not engage in, even if urged on by a multilateral group or an alliance?

    What is the nature of the values that we seek to advance?

    And how much does the application of these values depend on circumstance?”

    This is sound advice for any country.

  6. Karl.. says:

    New sanctions on Iran by west past days, doesnt that say anything to Iran? When will Iran get the message?

    Israel take more land from Palestinians
    http://www.dailysabah.com/mideast/2014/08/31/israel-plans-to-occupy-more-land-in-the-west-bank
    Meanwhile west whine about Russian “land taking”. Pathetic!

  7. James Canning says:

    The poll of Saudi public opinion mentioned by Hillary surely indicates that an overthrow of the monarchy would not be a good thing for Iran.

  8. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 1, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    It actually would be quite good for Iran; it would plunge Saudi Arabia into civil war where its heterogeneous Islamic sects would be fighting one another for the control of oil.

    The poll that is mentioned here only refers to an specific sect and not to all Muslims living there.

  9. Karl.. says:

    Just read that the idiots in UK regime threat to destroy russian economy.
    Seems like UK want the “Teheran sanctions” on Russia.

  10. James Canning says:

    Karl..,

    And your suggestion for how to encourage Russia to stop supplying weapons etc to the separatists in Ukraine is________?

  11. Pouya says:

    I just wanted to say that I went to Yosemitie this weekend and I was reminded of the beauty of this nation. We do live in a great country. Let us be reminded of that. And let us hope for better leadership America deserves.

  12. Karl.. says:

    Fidel Castro Compares NATO To Nazi Germany
    http://www.businessinsider.com/fidel-castro-nato-nazis-2014-9

    But not only nato but UK, US itself, “supplying weapons” to dictatorships and rebels all over the world.

  13. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    I doubt very much the Russians would enjoy seeking Bashar al-Assad overthrown by Isis.

  14. M.Ali says:

    16% of French Citizens Support ISIS, Poll Finds
    http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795


    “Last week a British MP claimed that as many as 1,500 British Muslims may have travelled to the Middle East to fight for ISIS, putting the figure at more than twice the number that fight for the British armed forces.”

    A question to ponder. If Muslims are much happier and safer in their property and everything, and at peace at being Muslims, in the west, how come there is more discontent with the muslims in the west, were thousands are supporting the ISIS and willnig to fight for them, while we don’t have the same problem in Iran? And I don’t even mean sunnis and shias, because if 10% of Iranians are sunnis, that’s 8 million sunnis. how many of them have left Iran to fight for ISIS?

    One could easily come to the conclusion that Muslims in Iran are satisfied with the society they are in, so they are not willing to join an third party religious group to fight for them. Most Muslims in the world do not seem to have the same priviledge.

  15. Karl.. says:

    M Ali

    Thats a interesting question, would be interesting with info/numbers of the sunnis views regarding this inside Iran indeed.
    Although 16% is quite a low number, what do you suspect the number be in Iran concering this among the sunnis?

  16. fyi says:

    M.Ali says:

    September 3, 2014 at 9:16 am

    They are stupid.

  17. fyi says:

    All:

    Dr. Cordesman on Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Central Asia:

    http://csis.org/publication/us-strategic-vacuum-afghanistan-pakistan-and-central-asia

    [No Positive View of the Future…]

  18. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    What do you propose for the “strategic vision” Obama should pursue regarding Afghanistan?

  19. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 3, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    The strategic vision for Afghanistan must be that of a neutral state.

  20. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    I agree: Afghanistan should be “neutral”. Isn’t it already?

  21. Cyrus_2 says:

    @ Karl

    “Although 16% is quite a low number”

    I think it’s very high.
    Support for IS spikes to 27% in the group of 18-24 years olds.
    27%: that’s more than Hollande’s latest approval ratings. :)

    About 10-11% of French population is muslim.
    So assuming that every French muslim supports IS (which is not true of course), there is an additional 5% of French non-muslims that supports IS.

  22. kooshy says:

    “Biden Warns: We Will Chase ISIS ‘to the Gates of Hell'”

    One would think world could be better place and better off if VP Biden and compony,would have chased these ISIS guys through the gates and not just to it. This is, since one can’t be sure who is more brutal the DC based caliphate which in past 30 some years Mr Biden has continually been a member of, or the western supported caliph who chops innocent’s Arab heads and runs ISIS.
    Back in days while still a senator, Mr Biden was a supporter of MEK terrorist group who chopped Iranian heads.

    My friend Pepe will like this

  23. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 3, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    No.

    Since 2002 Afghanistan had been turned into a play pan of the NATO states; playing at games of geostrategic and nation-building.

    With the withdrawal of NATO; Iran and Pakistan are going to support their own allies and almost certainly split Afghanistan.

  24. A-B says:

    It seems the popular culture of the West offers an excellent key-hole into the [mad] psyche of the West; after all, most of its literature/art is about madness made by madmen. Heck, you can’t be considered a ‘genius’ [Western] writer/artist if you aren’t diagnosed ‘bi-polar’, ‘clinically depressed’, ‘borderline-whatever’, ‘epileptic’, etc.

    So, when describing the Anglo-American attempt to broker ‘peace’ – be it between ‘Israel’-Palestine, in Syria, Iraq or Ukraine – an episode in ‘American Psycho’ (which I referred to in August 20, 2013) comes handy: The psycho chooses as his victim a five-year old boy who was accompanied by his mother at the zoo. The psycho discretely wounds the child fatally. The boy collapses; the mother becomes hysterical; a crowd gathers. The psycho then comes to the rescue pretending to be a doctor. He calms down everyone and obstructs real help to arrive, just to have the satisfaction of watching the child die before his eyes while pretending to save his life.

    Wasn’t it at the turn of the century (or 90’s) they claimed “Hollywood has become intelligent”? The trend was set for the ‘intelligent’ characters (deemed as such only because of a high so-called IQ) who were over-the-top, out-right implausible, psycho’s that made the audience wet their pants: they were SOO powerful, SOO calculating, SOOO SEXY!! Of course, the point was to project a pornographic picture of the psychopath, because a more realistic picture would show a totally empty shell of a humanoid – repulsive at most, tragic-pathetic at best. Thus, as the West created the image of the perversion that is ‘Israel’, now they try to promote the shit that is ISIS as oh-so-invincible. Further, the Western psycho’s have deliberately recreated a nightmarish REALITY in Libya, Syria and Iraq, worse than all the zombie-holocaust-slasher-apocalyptic FANTASIES they feed their brain-dead movie-goers. Thus, they’ve made the ME a theme-park for their deranged psycho’s – be they soldiers in their armies or the ISIS terrorists – to act out their perversions; it doesn’t cost the Western scum anything!

    BTW, in the picture of the GTT article “John McCain and the Desperate Flailing of Syrian Oppositionists’ External Supporters” (http://goingtotehran.com/john-mccain-and-the-desperate-flailing-of-syrian-oppositionists-external-supporters) the repulsive psycho John McCain is seen together with his buddy Terrorist-Caliph Al-Telavivi, AKA Al-Baghdadi (left in the photo). Why hasn’t this pus bag been popped yet?

    K1-N

  25. Rehmat says:

    Russia is punish by the US and EU for supporting Syria and Iran. We saw a similar situation in Georgia in the past.

    On May 6, 2014, the deputy head of Dnipropetrovsk, B. Filatov and Ukrainian oligarch Kolomoyski announced a plan to build a New Zion: Promised Land in the Zionist liberated Ukraine. Kolomoyski’s fellow Jewish oligarch Petro Poroshenko is the current president of Ukraine.

    The radical Zionist Chabad Jewish sect in the United States wants its community to move to Ukraine, their original Khazarian homeland.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/08/16/ukraine-new-jewish-promised-land/

  26. Rehmat says:

    Former US presidential candidate and long-time congressman, Ron Paul, who has been accused of being “anti-Semite” by the organized Jewry, has denied the “official story” of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

    Last week, in a breaking interview Ron Paul told Charles Goyette, host of podcast ‘Money and Markets’ that Bush administration had the pre-knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/09/04/ron-paul-911-was-an-inside-job/

  27. kooshy says:

    All

    Dr Jafarian’s new historic analysis on the threat of ISIS in the region

    http://khabaronline.ir/detail/373007/weblog/jafarian

    دولت عثمانی هم نتوانست به ایران آسیب بزند چه رسد به …..
    جعفریان، رسول – خطر داعش را نباید ساده انگاشت، این چیزی است که حالا سیاستمداران اروپایی و امریکایی و همین طور شماری از سردمداران دولت های عربی به آن اذعان می کنند، البته منهای ترکیه که گویی توافقاتی با داعش دارد که البته معلوم نیست کسی به آنها پایبند باشد.

    پادشاه عربستان گفته است که داعش تا یک ماه دیگر به اروپا و تا دو ماه دیگر به امریکا خواهد رسید. چنین اظهار نظری از پادشاه عربستان شگفت می نماید. یا آن که واقعا از جایی خبر دارد که دیگران خبر ندارند و یا آن که تصوری مثل پدرش عبدالعزیز در فتح قلعه های نجد و حائل و کویت و یا ماجرای حمله به کربلا و قطیف و احساء دارد که با قتل عام پنج هزار نفر در یک شهر خواست بر کربلا مسلط شود اما نشد.
    با این حال، هرچه هست، داعش در این مرحله، همین طور که ایشان می فرمایند عمل کرد، و منطقه وسیعی را مابین حلب و اربیل به همین ترتیب فتح کرد.
    در این مدت، بی توجهی دولت های همسایه، و همین طور بی توجهی کشورهای بزرگ و نیز نهادهای بین المللی در توجه به اوضاع منطقه، و نیز مشارکت بسیاری از همین ها در تجهیز افرادی که یا جزو همین دسته و گروه بودند یا آن که بعد پیوستند این فاجعه را پدید آورد.
    اما اکنون که نزدیک است آتش دامن برخی از ایشان را بگیرد، برای ترساندن اروپا و امریکا، بحث از تصرف یک ماهه و دو ماهه اروپا و امریکا می کنند. پادشاه عربستان بهتر از هر کسی می داند وضع داخل عربستان تا چه اندازه به نفع داعش است، به طوری که تمام مشایخ را بسیج کرده و از نظر مرزی و امنیتی هم تمام قوای خود را بکار گرفته است. اینها نیست مگر آثار تربیتی سلفی گری در این چند دهه حالا قرار است منطقه را به اسم اسلام و خلافت اسلامی تصرف کند.
    ماجرایی در اروپا و امریکا اتفاق نخواهد افتاد، هرچند ممکن است عملیاتی در آن نواحی بکنند، اما اگر قرار باشد مشکلی پدید آید، اول در عربستان و ترکیه و اردن خواهد بود، یعنی بعد از شام و عراق. هراس عربستان هم از همین است.
    اما ایران، تصور این که داعش در ایران کاری انجام بدهد، بر اساس تجارب تاریخی، تقریبا محال است. دولت عظیم عثمانی، آن هم با پادشاه ستمگری مثل سلطان سلیم که فقط در سال 922 نزدیک به دویست هزار نفر از اهل سنت را به بهانه سرکوب ممالیک در جریان حمله به جزیره العرب، شامات و مصر کشت، نتوانست صفویه را از صحنه گیتی حذف کند و ایران را به اشغال عثمانی درآورد. درست است که شاه اسماعیل در سال 920 در چالدران شکست خورد، اما نه تنها مردم ایران که دولت صفویه هم به سرعت قد علم کردند.

    بعد از آن هم بارها و بارها عثمانی ها حمله کردند، حتی وقتی که افغانها دولت صفوی را ساقط کردند، عثمانی ها تا همدان آمدند، به اسم خلافت و تسنن و این قبیل مطالب، اما ایران برای آنها تصرف ناشدنی شد.
    در این سوی هم، دولت ازبک، بارها تا خراسان و مشهد آمد، شیعیان را قتل عام کرد، اما هرگز نتوانست دولتی استوار و ثابت حتی در خراسان برای چند سال نگاه دارد.

    الان هم به رغم آن که تلعفر مرکز شیعیان ترکمان سقوط کرد، و آن هم بعد از مقاومت، آمرلی در تمام این مدت، برابر داعش ایستاد. حالا هم بحمد الله با همکاری همه گروه ها و حمایت هوایی امریکا، تحت عناوین بشر دوستانه، آمرلی از محاصره نجات یافته است. مسلما این شیعیان غیور ترکمان این ناحیه بودند که این دو ماه سخت مقاومت کردند.
    بنابرین پادشاه عربستان فکری به حال مملکت خود بکند، چنان که اردن و ترکیه و مصر باید چنین بکنند که مسلما اگر قرار باشد، داعش برق و بادی باشد و بوزد مسلما در سمت و سوی ایران نخواهد بود. ایران استوار ایستاده و حتی وقتی توسط افغانها هم سقوط کرده، هنوز چند سالی نگذشت که نادره دورانی آمد و با همت همین مردم، آنها را چنان تاراند و از مملکت بیرون کرد که جز چند صد نفر نتوانست خود را به موطن اصلی شان در قندهار برسانند.

    مردان و زنان آمرلی تن به اسارت برابر داعش ندادند و مقاومت کردند

  28. Pouya says:

    Policy of Divide and Rule:

    1-Europe vs Russia
    2-ME: Iran in Mid 80’s, Saddam in the 90’s, once BinLadin came forth Saddam was killed, now we have ISIS.
    3-Asia: China is the big bad wolf

  29. Pouya says:

    PS

    One must admit that the policy of divide and rule works.

  30. A-B says:

    Apart from the ‘programming’ scheme I posted above (on how ‘sexy’ it is to be a psycho) we have this ‘nice’ little terrorist-factory run by the ‘liberal-democratic’ Anglo-Americans according to this flowchart (A-B 10/09/2011):

    1) The Brits exploit people of its former colonies. 2) Disgruntled ‘2nd generation immigrants’ who ‘won’t assimilate’ are lured in anti-spiritual Saudi-Wahhabism who 3) by going to Af/Pak [now Syria and Iraq] expose themselves while they 4) destroy Culture in Af/Pak [now in Syria and Iraq] and replace it with anti-humanism which 5) is used to scare the Westerners of ‘Islam’ to 6) further alienate Muslims in the West and feed the system (goto 2). 7) Those caught in Af/Pak and Iraq [were] sent to Gitmo to be [recycled and] transferred to Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Syria; as new terrorists fresh off the Gitmo oven: Bel-Hadj and allegedly Qumu in Libya, now ‘Al-Baghdadi’, etcetera…

    K1-N

  31. A-B says:

    And of course, the whole operation is paid for by the Saudi filth and other tribalist savages of the Peninsula.

  32. A-B says:

    Then, of course, we have the Western ideologues and the punditocracy, which rationalize why their madness MUST run amok. Continuing with the popular cultural references; we have this mass murdering, consonant snatching, Beavis look-alike ‘statesman’ Zbgnhwv Brzznnxks_i and his side-kick, the veritable Butthead, Kissinger. The assault on Ukraine, which could escalate into WWIII, is just because ‘Beavis’ has a PERSONAL grudge against Russia! These MFs ARE like those two anti-social pricks in the MTV show Beavis & Butthead, who sit in front of TV (the ‘world’ to them) commenting music videos and making ‘[GRAND] plans’. But the tragic part is that people – unfortunately not only Westerners – abide by their commentaries and ‘critiques’, instead of punishing these mass murdering criminals; after all, they, like Beavis & Butthead, cannot be schooled! On the contrary, if they – like their punk-doubles do in the MTV show – exclaim “GWAR rules!” the academia, the sub-pundits, the MSM, and consequently the sheeples, all chant “hail GWAR!” Now, that’s Western liberal democracy for you; led by its high priests or, dare I say, supreme leaders. And it is also very [non-religious] ‘secular’ and ‘democratic’!!

    Note: If you don’t know ‘what’ GWAR is, google it; god forbid, you might also think the band rules! 😉

    K1-N

  33. James Canning says:

    Rehmat,

    Russia has been helping the effort to work out a deal between Iran and the P5+1.

  34. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    As a country, Afghanistan is not the “ally” of any other country.

  35. masoud says:

    Here’s something that recently took mybreqth away:I’ve been reading that the coalition government forming in Iraq plans to give the oil ministry to the Kurds, presumably this means the talabani/masum aligned PUK. If this happens, it will deal a very well deserved death blow to the Kurdish end run around the central government, and consequently their recent seccesionist maneuverings. Hopefully, it’ll end Barzani’s career as well. Kudos to whoever it was that dreamed it up.

  36. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    M. Ali-jan,

    Notice the kind of answer he gives when confronted by facts you laid out that contradict his oghde-ha.

    What an asshole.

  37. Amir says:

    Dear Bussed-in Basiji,
    Do you know any particular outlet/ forum that focuses on aspects of Islamic-Iranian culture, considering the latest speech of the Leader, in a visit of members of the Assembly of Experts, and the part about the importance of elaborating on Islamic-Iranian culture?

  38. Sammy says:

    A MUST Read for nico and A-B:

    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article47197.htmlIRONY THICK

    …The irony is unusually thick, but hardly noticed by the masses, as the US marches to marxist fascism. The Europeans resist fascism and isolation. The Russians seek commerce, partnerships, and constructive engagement. The Chinese seek trade and commerce, while opening gates for a sort of colonization. The British seeks a new fence on which to sit, and possibly continue to capture the finance trade (while Frankfurt cleans up in the new great RMB Hub game). The entire British Commonwealth of nations kowtows to the American self-proclaimed global lords and rule makers. Witness the friction to prevent Eurasia from forming, as the insolvent Oceania fades in power, importance, and integrity. Orwell just winked.

    UKRAINE JUMP SHIFT

    The motives for the Ukraine War are murky. Clearly to the cynic with a watchful eye on fascism spread, the motive seems to be designed to cut off Russian Gazprom influence, even to halt its conversion of Europe to an energy vassal client. The US-EU intentions seem to be scorched earth with a genocide twist, stirred by asset thefts (see Kiev Central Bank raid). The Ukraine situation has changed the entire game, put Europe on alert, and set traps left and right. The Europeans can no longer sit quietly and follow American Fascist orders. The Europeans are forced to take action, to choose sides. The US should never force its allies to choose sides, since the US camp is so detrimental and deeply damaging. Joining the US camp means injecting cancer in finance, undermining capital in industry, and enlisting war for its destruction.

    SPECIAL FORCES IN EQUATION

    The big new twist which took the Jackass out of his chair was the professional hardened soldiers who have joined the Ukraine Liberation Movement (or whatever it is called), taking up positions against the NATO troops, against the Langley-Soros mercenaries. They are fighting against the Ukraine Regime in Kiev, against the fascists. These professional volunteer soldiers have captured some American Blackwater mercenaries, and are conducting interrogations. Later come the perp walks and criminal parades with photo ops. For these special forces from Germany, France, Netherlands, and Britain to show such extreme defiance is testimony to the broken nature of NATO. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization in my opinion is dead, as in dead kaput dead. The United States violated the treaty long ago in two key ways. The US placed ballistic missiles on the Russian borders, calling them defensive. The US has used NATO bases to distribute heroin for over 20 years, with the last ten years being accelerated from the Afghan source. Since the USMilitary invasion of Afghanistan, at the time under the stated purpose of building a Chevron oil pipeline in a land without oil resources, the heroin production has risen 14-fold. But the Jackass digresses.

    NATO is dead, and the big new questions are whether Germany will tolerate USMilitary soldiers in occupation of its land at Ramstein AFBase, and whether Germany will permit further usage of the NATO base to distribute heroin to its population. Broken treaties are not new for the USGovt, which for two centuries has broken them at will, whenever it serves a greater purpose, like to manifest destiny. Atrocities and genocide are part of the American fabric at its highest offices.

    FASCIST AXIS EXPOSED MORE FULLY….

  39. Empty says:

    It is quite amazing to see how everyone on the panel spoke as if ISIS/ISIL/IS were an unintended or accidental consequence of the US/UK policies and conducts and not their own bastard creation matching another 66-year old bastard created in the region by them.

  40. Empty says:

    A-B,

    Good one and a befitting comparison. In line with “Power of Nightmares” by Adam Curtis.

  41. Kathleen says:

    Thank you Hillary for your important insights. What is this the fifth time on Melissa Harris Perry’s in the last several months? Real MSM breakthroughs…real change

    Joy Reid doing a great job covering what took place in Gaza and illegal settlements expansion in West Bank.

  42. Kathleen says:

    Hope folks share this

  43. James Canning says:

    Sammy,

    Nato is “dead”? Surely you jest.

  44. kooshy says:

    “Obama says U.S. will ‘take the fight’ to Islamic State”

    As I observe, in the beginning the ISIS was made to be a geostratgic headache for Syria and Iran’s or more correctly the resistance, but fortunately with a perfect synchronization of top level Shieh clergies of ( Iran and Iraq) protecting only the Shieh areas from ISIS, now more and more as per westerners and their Arab clients panic is the evidence ISIS is more of headache for the west than is for the resistance.
    Also of worthy news today Iran rejected and denied an earlier false news by BBC that is willing to cooperate with the US against IS.

  45. kooshy says:

    On my last post I meant to say that ISIS was supposed to reduce the geostrategic depth of Iran and her resisting shieh allies, but fortunately in fact is now clear that since ISIS was effectively contained in areas of majority Sunni western Iraq and eastern Syria. As matter of consequences, now one can conclude the (ISIS) has effectively reduced the strategic depth of western states and their Sunni Arab and Turk clients in their influential Sunni regions of Middle East, which previously they were able to mobilize against the resistance. This is the reason we don’t see anyone in Iran, Lebanon and Syria panicking.

  46. kooshy says:

    For Gav James

    Gav- This what one should expect and what will happen when one’s country becomes a client state, it’s leaders become subservient ill respected poodles.

    Handshake fail leaves Cameron red-faced
    http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/09/06/09/59/handshake-fail-leaves-cameron-red-faced

  47. Empty says:

    Kooshy,

    It’s quite clear from the video that Cameron is introducing the two fellows to Obama. Given that none of the reports actually says anything about who the two fellows are, it wouldn’t be too far fetched to assume they must be some British instruments tagged for some mischievous purpose and introduced to Obama for future use. The men looked Turkish or from another one of those EU member “extras” on the European stage.

  48. Pouya says:

    It is amazing to me how many people either actually think so or just write to create an atmosphere where the may actually be an opportunity for the US and Iran to cooperate on some sort of common enemy or cause. Do they actually believe the nonsense themselves?

    ISIS is to create a power vacuum.
    This vacuum is to be filled by new force.
    This force is likely to be a US-Arab contingency.
    The aim is reduce Iran’s influence.
    Ultimately there is no deal with Iran.
    I have no doubt the ultimate goal remains regime change, one way or another.
    Regime change strategy demands that Iran be nuke free.

    Once again, one must admit this strategy is working and brilliant.
    What worries me is that it can pull the US into yet another fatal war, and yet another ME nation will be layed in ruins.

  49. kooshy says:

    “Once again, one must admit this strategy is working and brilliant.’

    Really? How can one forget, it really did wonders (for its creators and the world) with creating Taliban and Al Qaeda? Who can say they are no better off with creating a perfect terror group, now that their own creation will need a collation of at least ten of its creator for just making it less effective (weaken) ?

    “U.S., allies unite to weaken Islamic State”

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20140905-u.s.-allies-unite-to-weaken-islamic-state.ece

  50. M.Ali says:

    BiB,

    Reading his posts is like watching those shitty LA sattelite channels with some old guy with a tie ranting and raving about Islamic Republic of Iran for the last 30 years.

  51. Sammy says:

    James Canning says:
    September 5, 2014 at 5:35 pm
    Sammy,
    Nato is “dead”? Surely you jest.

    ‘King of GAVs’ James , may be this comment from MoA opens your eyes a bit :

    “So is Obama is doubling down (again) on Syria? Hoping that the mystical “Free Syrian Army” (Jihadis in disguise) heavily supports by the U.S. will fight the Islamic State and the Syrian government?”

    I doubt that Obama or NATO have the stomach (or the Balls) to risk launching a military assault on Syria while Vlad’s flotilla is nearby. US-NATO only attack pissy little countries with poor defenses – and they do so from a safe distance. With Russia on stand-by, Syria isn’t a pissy little country and there’s NO place on earth from which Syria can be attacked that is a safe distance from Russia’s arsenal.

    The Yankees are snookered but, having started another bluster-fest, they probably feel that they can’t stop now. This is good for Putin. He knows what delicate little Pansies & Petunias US-NATO really are. And every day the impotent bluster-fest continues US-NATO loses a few tens of thousands more (fair weather) friends, globally. If his “all talk and no action” policy on Syria isn’t embarrassing Obama & Friends yet, it soon will be.
    I’m just waiting for Obama to start whining about brinkmanship…

    Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 5, 2014 1:45:37 PM | 13

  52. Fiorangela says:

    Castellio (and Others) — You may be interested in this booklet, “Slavs and Tatars,” a collection of essays discussing how Iranians can use the model of the Polish non-violent revolution.

    http://www.slavsandtatars.com/FON_s&t.pdf

    Among other things, the booklet notes that some Polish scholars trace the origins of the Polish people to Iranian roots —

    “During a relatively enlightened Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Polish nobility ascribed to a myth of origins where their ancestors had been a long-lost Iranic tribe from the Black Sea. First popularized by Polish renaissance geographer Maciej Miechowita (1457-1523) in his Tractatus de duabus Sarmatiis (Treatise on the Two Sarmatias), Sarmatism provided the perfect premise for the polish szlacta to out-macho what they considered their more effetely-dressed Western European colleagues by riding horses, carrying swords, and getting haircuts worthy of a Persian, Tatar, Chinese, Apache, or any other Other.” [p. 12]

  53. Persian Gulf says:

    It is with an ultimate joy to see that, once again, Russia is demonized, and sanctioned, to the hilt. May Russia get more sanctions and bad treatment. Even NPR is lambasting Russia for being aggressive and expansionist, and the urgent need to contain her in Russia’s backyard. I think Putin and Medvedev well deserve this treatment for all the flirting they were doing in the past decade. particularly for their opportunistic stand regarding Iran’s nuclear file.

    Lest forget Russia never vetoed any resolution against Iran.

    Still everyone says that the use of force is out of the question. why? Russia’s nuclear weapons.

  54. fyi says:

    Persian Gulf says:

    September 6, 2014 at 9:52 am

    It was fortuitous that Axis Powers did not make a strategic deal with Russia back in 2000s when Mr. Putin was floating the idea of Russia joining NATO.

    The NATO & Russia alliance would have made the White People again the dominant people on this planet; something not existing since 1914.

    For neither China, nor Japan, nor Korea can match Axis Powers and Russia in technical, commercial, scientific, philosophical, and artistic productivity – yet.

  55. Karl.. says:

    Persian Gulf

    Thats highly ignorant of you to say, if it wasnt for Russia Iran would be far more damaged by sanctions or even an attack on them.

    Will you laugh as much when Russia take its veto from possible sanctions in the future? I dont think you would. Not really wise to laugh at someone that help you even though Russia could have acted more in interests of Iran sometimes indeed.

  56. kooshy says:

    Basically Peter is saying hey lets Live with It, don’t make it worst ,
    ان سبو بشكست و ان بيمانه ريخت
    No P on my phone’s font

    Iran’s Nuclear Future
    by Peter Jenkins
    “May I start by reminding you that the US intelligence estimate is that Iran’s leaders have not taken a decision to acquire nuclear weapons. This is what the US Director of National Intelligence stated on Jan. 29, 2014: ‘Iran has made technical progress…from which it could draw if it decided to build missile-deliverable nuclear weapons….This makes the central issue its political will to do so…We do not know if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons.’”

    http://www.lobelog.com/irans-nuclear-future/

  57. masoud says:

    Karl.. says:
    September 6, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    The US has and EU been acting in an extremely aggressive fashion for the past couple of decades, but Russia has proved that it is as unprincipled, untrustworthy and opportunistic as possible. From dragging out the completion of Bushehr which they were commissioned to do in the 90s until the 2010’s, approving multiple rounds of sanctions against Iran, trying to use it’s veto as a means to extort more money and contracts from Iran, to the whole s300 fiasco, Russia has proved, time and again that it can only be trusted as far as it can be thrown.

  58. James Canning says:

    Sammy,

    I very much doubt there is any chance of “Nato” involvement in the Syrian civil war.

  59. Persian Gulf says:

    Karl

    You are mistaken about Russia’s help. Russia’s help was minimal. in fact, she was flirting with every sanction to the point were beyond that it would have damaged Russia directly. Like China, Russia extracted maximum benefit from each sanction on Iran. and in the last minute always favored the resolution. we read these days that France refuses to deliver two war ships to Russia. Russia refused to deliver a very critical means to deter air strike long after the money was paid for. and especially at the time that the west, and the Zionist regime, were openly talking about air strike. this is a very recent history.

    Russia did not want be seen outside of the club. they shredded her like a piece of s***. this is a very good development for Iran. Russia’s stand was not principled in any circumstances.

  60. Karl.. says:

    Persian Gulf

    So all rejection by Russia past years of more sanctions has been bad for Iran?

    If it so obvious that RUssia have never helped Iran why should we laugh at them being sanctioned?

  61. Persian Gulf says:

    Karl.. says:
    September 6, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    For obvious reasons. one of which is being a very good lesson for Russia.I am sure you can figure out other good benefits of this event.

  62. Karl.. says:

    Persian Gulf

    So in your words, Russia should stop its rejection against further sanctions on Iran?

  63. James Canning says:

    “I know of no former or current [American] intelligence official who believes that toppling Bashar al-Assad would bring anything but chaos. . .”
    – – Philip Giraldi, writing in the American Conservative Sept. 5th

  64. Sammy says:

    BARACK OBAMA’S COMEDY CASTLE EXPLORES NEW GROUND IN HUMOR

    http://www.syrianperspective.com/2014/09/barack-obamas-comedy-castle-explores-new-ground-in-humor.html

    Showing solidarity with all “moderate” Muslims, David Cameron, Barack Obama and Anders “Fag” Rasmussen pray to a Beneficent Allah for help in ridding the world of their own creation, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. The scene brought people to their knees laughing.

    Cardiff, Wales (UK): Brunhilde Liebesbombe reporting for Mercury News Service (MNS). America’s president, Barack Hussein Obama, has taken his comedy troupe to Cardiff, Wales in the United Kingdom to entertain the world once again with his singularly unique style of comedy. MNS was invited to attend the ceremonies at the WDYSREHHANDOSHOIG and HTITIDAEISNABITNUADNBIDHOIH Pub in Cardiff inaugurating Mr. Obama’s new comedy team made up of David Cameron his traditional white straight man, Anders “Fag” Rasmussen also known as the “Gay Danish Dupayash”, Ahmed Davutoghlu, a/k/a “Ugly Igloo the Turkish Dwarf”, Angela Merkel “Das Schlampchen” and Francois Hollande, France’s most despised leader since Adolph Hitler – but its most popular comedian. What a spectacular lineup of talent! But, cameo appearances by Arabian jokesters like King Abdullah of Jordan added not only spice to the entire affair but a hint of empathy for all the short people like the Turkish Prime Minister who had to hide the milk box upon which he stood when addressing the audience.

    In a skit titled “We Love Ayraabs”, Mr. Obama grinningly shows King Abdullah of Jordan the bottoms of his shoes. The scene had the audience vomiting with laughter especially with the closing lines: “Lick this, camel jockey!”. (hysterical guffaws)

    The program started with Mr. Obama’s opening monologue. It was crisp, to the point and gut-splittingly funny.

    “Hi, folks. I’m Barack Hussein Obama. I’m here to tell you we’re gonna destroy ISIS, but, we can’t do that and look like we’re helping Assad.” (Wild laughter)

    “ISIS is a vicious organization bent on nothing but mass killing. We oppose their program because mass killing is the prerogative of the United States only.” (Violent laughter)

    “It’s great being here in Wales. We were going to change the location to London, but, my staff didn’t want to welsh on you, ha ha.” (Wild applause)

    “We can’t invite Putin to this meeting because he’s got his tanks in the Ukraine. And he can’t invite us to Syria because we have our terrorists there. Go figure.” (Uncontrolled laughter)

    Obama then sang one of his signature songs, “Drone on Sweet Chariot” which enraptured the audience:

    “Drone on Sweet Chariot,

    Coming forth to take Awlaki home,

    Drone on Sweet Chariot,

    We are an all-American Drone.”

    Anders “Fag” Rasmussen stole the show with his stand-up routine poking fun at his dysfunctional Danish life as a young man:

    “You know, in Denmark, everybody is named Rasmussen. My mother was Rasmussen Rasmussen. And my father was named, Rasmussen Rasmussen. So what did I do? I became gay and joined NATO. It was that or the BBC.” (The audience gives itself over to a paroxysm of laughter).

    “I always wanted to command NATO because it had so many handsome young men. It was like being Rock Hudson commanding a submarine on its way to the North Pole. Get it? Ice Station Zebra? Get it?” (Vigorous laughter)

    “You know what my favorite leather bar is? The one called “English Leather”. Oh, you Brits are so sexy. Spank me! Spank me!” (Eruption of laughter)

    The only awkward moment during the program was when newly elected Turkish Prime Minister, Ahmed Davutoghlu, came on stage dressed in nylons and women’s undergarments, possibly impersonating Xaviera Hollander, Ed Wood, Tim Curry or Dustin Hoffman….

  65. fyi says:

    All:

    http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/58213

    Example of attempts at scientific collaboration in the Middle East – largely dependent on hand-outs from Axis Powers, Russia, China, and Japan.

    One wonders what ISIS would do with all this equipment.

  66. Sineva says:

    masoud says:
    September 6, 2014 at 12:52 pm
    Persian Gulf says:
    September 6, 2014 at 1:03 pm
    Agreed,russia is no friend or ally to iran,one only has to look at busher or the s300 deal or the un sanctions to see this

  67. Karl.. says:

    Sineva

    I dont see any logic that Russia do 100% what Iran wants, thats not realistic, even US sometimes dont supprot Israel 100%.

  68. Empty says:

    Karl,

    RE: I dont see any logic that Russia do 100% what Iran wants, thats not realistic, even US sometimes dont supprot Israel 100%.

    It is not about Russia doing or not doing what Iran wanted. It’s about Russia doing (or not doing) what it was obligated to do; doing what it contractually agreed to do; doing the correct and right thing within the framework of international law and as far as its responsibilities were concerned.

    Iran never wanted or wants to be treated outside of or beyond what has been rightfully hers under the international laws and treaties. Russia (and China), as members of the security councils went along and cooperated fully with what the US and other members wanted EVEN THOUGH it was illegal; EVEN THOUGH it was against the NPT framework…

    Russia had signed the agreement with Iran for the S-300 and refused to deliver AFTER years of dragging its feet and twisting things around.

    Russia had an obligation regarding Boushehr Nuclear plant and actually openly and publicly bragged about employing delayed tactics and obstruction for more than 20 years. Boushehr should have finished more than 20 years ago. And it was actually publicly giving “lessons” and lecturing George Bush, the Lesser, how to be discretely destructive toward Iran and used the delays in Boushehr as examples of HOW to do it.

    A lot more examples of Russian misconduct and untrustworthy stance and deeds exists with respect to gas pipelines, Caspian sea division, and more as far as Russia is concerned.

    It’s not that Iran is too demanding or just too illogical. As far as deceitfulness and “shitty” behavior is concerned, Russia is an excellent match for the US and UK and all those other shitty countries.

    As far as Iran is concerned, its leaders are quite aware and any relations they decide to have, they are not under any illusion that they are teaming up with a “great” partner. Russia is anything but great (just like the rest of them).

    Don’t take things personally. See the Russia’s behavior for what it is and then start from there advocating any mutual cooperation you might think would be beneficial for both.

  69. Empty says:

    Note: the 20 years included negotiating for the contract. Though it took a long time for that as well, we would not count it as part of Russia’s obligation since they had not signed any agreement yet.

  70. Karl.. says:

    Empty

    Right no one denies that, I have myself criticized that (on the s-300) but it wouldnt be better if Russia stopped “supporting” Iran in total, and I think the iranian gov would agree with me on that. Dont you think?

  71. Empty says:

    Karl,

    From what I have observed, I think it is very likely that the Iranian government would work with Russia on several fronts in the interest of regional security and to limit the US Inc.’s disastrous movements. As a long-term strategic partner though, I am not seeing that because of the trust issues that have been mentioned.

  72. fyi says:

    Empty says:

    September 7, 2014 at 7:40 am

    The fundamental issue for Iran is that economic activity in Iran is dominated by trade and not by industrial production.

    All Iranian governments since 1980 have failed in making industrial production the dominant form of economic activity in Iran. Which, in turn, fosters dependency on foreign powers.

  73. Sammy says:

    From the Saker :

    ……..

    Q: And what about Uncle Sam?

    A: He is totally stuck in his only mode: demands, threats, condemnation, demands, threats, condemnation, etc. etc. etc. Normally “aggression” is part of that mantra, except that neither the US nor NATO have what it takes to militarily attack Russia. As for the AngloZionist ‘deep state’ it will continue to try subvert and economically cripple Russia, but as long as Putin is on the Kremlin I don’t see that strategy succeeding either.

    Q: Sounds like you are optimistic.

    A: If so, then only very very cautiously so. I don’t see a big drama, much less so a disaster, in what just happened, I think that Russia holds all the good cards in this game, and I see no danger for the people of Novorussia. To those who wanted to ride on a tank straight to the Maidan I can only say that even though I very much share their hopes and dreams, politics is the art of the possible and that smart politics are often slow and time-consuming politics. Maximalism is good for teenagers, not heads of state whose decision affect the lives of millions of people. Thus my temporary and provisional conclusion is this: so far, so good, things are better than they seemed to be only 2 months ago and I see no reason to expect a major reversal in the foreseeable future.

    Q: What do you consider the biggest danger for Novorussia right now?

    A: Political infighting. I don’t know if this is possible right now, but I would like to see the emergence of an undisputed Novorussian leader who would have the official and full support of Strelkov, Zakharchenko, Borodai, Mozgovoi, Kononov, Khodakovski, Tsarev, Bolotov, Gubarev and all the other political and military leaders. This has to be a truly Novorussian leader, not just a “Putin proconsul”, a person capable of negotiating with Putin for the interests of the people of Novorussia. I don’t mean to suggest that these negotiations cannot be friendly, if only because there can be no Novorussia against Russia, but this leader needs to represent the interests of the Novorussian people, and not the Russian people whose interests are (very well) represented by Putin himself. Right now, the main reason why Putin has so much power in Novorussia is primarily because there is still no real Novorussian political leadership. There is a Novorussian military leadership, and even they probably have to more or less do what the Russian military tells them to do. Far from being weakened by the emergence of such a truly independent and truly Novorussian leader, I think that the Russian-Novorussian alliance would be greatly strengthened by it. Novorussia should not, and cannot, be micro-managed from the Kremlin. In other words, what I hope is for a “Novorussian Nasrallah” who would be a loyal and faithful but sovereign and independent ally of Putin (like Nasrallah is for Ayatollah Ali Khamenei), but not a poodle like Blair or Hollande. Novorussia needs a spokesman and negotiator who could really have a mandate to speak for the people of Novorussia. Until that happens, I will always be worried for the future of the people of Novorussia.

    *******

    That’s it for now. I hope that with this self-made Q&A/FAQ I have replied to many, if not most, of the questions, comments and emails I simply had no time to respond to in the past. I also hope to have set the record straight about my own views which have been constantly and systematically mis-represented by either dishonest or plain stupid individuals. If I am succeeded in terminally offending and discouraging the Putin-haters – good. I am tired of dealing with their illiterate rants. Ditto for Saker-haters (- : told you: I am not a nice guy :-), to whom I will add this personal message: stop telling me what I am supposed to do, say, think or write. This blog is like an AA meeting: “take what you like and leave the rest”. But don’t expect me to change and don’t expect me to change my views unless you can show me by facts and logic that I am wrong (in which case I will gratefully welcome the opportunity correct my mistake). Rants just annoy me, especially racist ones, but they won’t make me turn into a clone of you….

  74. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    You are well aware Iran could have bought control of numerous companies all over the planet, with the revenues Iran in effect instead chose not to obtain, from sales of energy. Access to high tech etc etc etc was readily available to Iran.

  75. James Canning says:

    Sammy,

    The US and UK were following policies that did a great deal to advance the Russian economy. UK and US were quite happy to follow such policies. Surely you are aware of this fact.

  76. James Canning says:

    Regarding Bushehr, my understanding is that Russia is prepared to build four more nuclear power plants for Iran, and to see Iran provide its own nuclear fuel for those four additional nuclear power plants.

  77. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 7, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    The price would have been elimination of Iranian strategic autonomy.

    This remains the central pillar of US strategy – destruction of the Iranian strategic autonomy and its replacement with a pliant satrapy or dependency.

    In that, she is going against the national program and desire of Iranian people – and if you do not know this then you do not know the Iranian people.

    For the United States and her allies to succeed in this endeavor, they have to break the Will of Iranian people to National Power.

    War in which state collapse through murder of 5 to 7 % of Iranian population ( 4 to 6 million souls) is the only path left for Axis Powers to reach their aims.

    To me, Iran must be nuclear-armed.

  78. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 7, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    That is all contingent on Iran agreeing to the demands of P5+1 on a toy nuclear program in Iran for 30 years.

    That is not going to happen and no new Russian plant will be built in Iran anytime soon.

  79. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    China has bought and is buying control of numerous countries around the globe, and in so doing increases China’s strength. Iran could have done the same thing but chose not to.

  80. James Canning says:

    Numerous companies (not countries).

    You are correct, in my view, that Russia wants Iran to make a deal with the P5+1. In Iran’s own best interests.

  81. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 7, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    2 things:

    1- China is a nuclear-armed state
    2- Axis Powers settled strategically with China

    Neither of those obtains for Iran.

  82. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 7, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    The highest state authority in Iran has outlined the parameters of an acceptable deal with Iran.

    P5+1 have declined to accept those parameters.

    There will be no deal with P5+1.

    I suggest you watch the interview of Ambassador Araghchi with Mr. Simpson on Channel 4; you can see clearly that the P5+1 negotiations have failed.

  83. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Point is: Iran in effect has discarded huge amounts of power, apparently for reasons of pride and domestic politics within Iran itself.

  84. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 7, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    “Says who?” – James Canning whose country is a nuclear-armed state and belongs to the most powerful military block on this planet.

    The fact is this: no price has been too much to secure for Iran the ability to field nuclear weapons if her leaders so determine.

    This is a matter of state survival for Iran; strategic accommodation with Iran without accepting a nuclear-armed Iran is not possible.

    As for war, it is now a political and practical impossibility for Axis Powers – may be they can get Pakistan to attack Iran.

    But that war option is now delayed until after ISIS is destroyed (if ever).

    Iranians should ignore P5+1 and continue creating facts on the ground – fueling Arak etc.

    None of the proses of P5+1 to Iran are worth a damn.

  85. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Chances of an attack on Iran by Pakistan are near zero. Problems with Sunni militants, Baluchi separtists, and drug smugglers, are another matter.

  86. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Surely you are aware Russia and China want to ensure Iran does not build nukes.

  87. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 7, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Life is tough; they are not going to be successful.

    P5+1 refused the final Iranian offer.

    The rest will be history as the consequences unfold in the coming years.

    Any way, now that the negotiations have failed, let us talk about how EU and US and Arabs are going to fight ISIS.

  88. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    “Creating facts on the ground” may well be better described as digging a deeper hole.

  89. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 7, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    Rhetorical point; I suggest Axis Powers to do likewise; in their relentless war against the Shia Crescent they have now made oil wells of Persian Gulf insecure – through their sponsorship of jihadist and their War-is-Cheap posture against Iran.

    They have not yet failed at the grand strategic level but certainly have failed colossally in the Middle East.

  90. Neil M says:

    The critics of Russia’s treatment of Iran, regarding Bushehr, have (deliberately?) ignored the economic melt-down of the Russian economy after Russia’s US-engineered eviction from Afghanistan. Rapid post melt-down political, economic and military reconstruction/reinvention demanded that Russia maintain an uncontroversial foreign policy profile until that process was complete, or almost so. That time seems to have arrived.

    It is perfectly understandable that Russia avoided drawing attention to itself by appearing to go along with the Western/neocon Iran agenda while it was in a weakened condition. It’s easy to forget that, despite the “Russian approved” sanctions, Iran is in much better shape in 2014 than might have been the case had Russia encouraged Iran to adopt a defiant attitude before Russia was ready to offer support.

    (In his circa 2009 CNN interview, President Medvedev described a military attack on Iran as “the worst imaginable catastrophe.” That interview has been preserved on the Kremlin website under Presidential Speeches.)

    Although it seems almost irrelevant, the destruction of Libya was a big mistake on the part of Western ideologues. That shameful (and typically cowardly) event put both Russia and China on Red Alert and neither is likely to ‘relax’ until the US-led Axis of Evil has been ambushed – and tamed.

  91. Empty says:

    Neil M,

    Syria has been in “weak” conditions (far worse than Russia); Venezuela has been in “weak” conditions (far worse than Russia); Hezbollah has been in “weak” conditions (far worse than Russia); Cuba has been in “weak” conditions (far worse than Russia). They are principled and trustworthy partners but Russia is not.

    There is an important difference between in “weak” conditions and being a weasel.

  92. Sineva says:

    James Canning says:
    September 7, 2014 at 1:54 pm
    Gadaffi tried the exact same thing as you are suggesting,in the end he wound up with a bunch of useless “allies” who could do absolutely nothing for him politically or militarily when his new “best friends” in the west turned against him at the first opportunity that presented itself,hopefully iran learnt a lesson from his sorry example

    James Canning says:
    September 7, 2014 at 4:02 pm
    That would be a perfect description of the situation that the west has got itself into in syria and iraq and yet it still keeps on digging

  93. Empty says:

    Nevertheless, I think Iran can work with Russia on a limited and focused issues with eyes wide open and always watching its back prepared to dodge the knife.

  94. Persian Gulf says:

    Neil M says:
    September 7, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    Russia refused to deliver S-300 at the peak of its economy over the past few decades, when oil was 150$ a barrel. and more importantly when there was a looming possibility of air strike. Russia will never be any stronger than those moments, perhaps for another 2-3 decades when its demography gets adjusted.

  95. kooshy says:

    An amazing post-modern residential architecture in Tehran, (in real term the form is fallowing function on this house) I only can say Bravo to these great purely functional thinker architects.
    Unlike what some here try to make believe, these same Iranians among many others who have designed and built the world’ most romantic building Taj Mahal (crown’s place) or the world’ most bountiful open plaza Nagsheh Jahan (image of the world), or the world’s most touched architectural master piece the Jaame’ Abbasi (shah) Mosque of Isfahan, and not the least but the world most humanely majestic seat of a government the Persepolis, have reached and continually have contributed to our world’ artistic and scientific heritage.

    “It was designed by Iranian architects Nextoffice. A spokesman for the company said: ‘The house adapts to the functional needs of its users
    (
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2728691/We-moving-block-How-Tehran-come-ultimate-space-saving-feature-MOVEABLE-rooms-And-s-push-button.html#ixzz3Cgvbf7aa

    The Sharifi-Ha house has been shortlisted in the house category at the 2014 World Architecture also competing for the award, which means only Australia has more nominees, with four.”

  96. M.Ali says:

    Russia has the same problem as Turkey. They so desperately want to be accepted in Europe’s club and be European. I don’t know why Russia doesn’t give up. For centuries, they have been trying to be chummy with France and UK and be like them. Thats why they can never really be trusted because they won’t learn their lesson. Putin might act nationalistic now, but if in a year, France, Germany, and UK give him a call and tell him they’re having a small party and only real europeans are invited and they are inviting him too, he’ll rush out to them.

    I mean, look at Syria. Their support of Syria pales in comparison with the support Iran gives them, even though Syria is a very useful geopolitical ally for Russia. With Jordan, Egypt, and Turkey in the palms of the west, Russia could have secured his own influence with a country like Syria (and Iran, and with Iran’s help, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, etc). But their assistance is pathetic given the influence and strength they have.

    However, good for us. A smart and confident Russia might actually be more of a concern for us in the long term.

  97. Karl.. says:

    M Ali

    On the one hand you say ‘ Oh who cares about Russians we dont need them’ and in the next you say ‘ Only if Russia could help us more’.

    So what is it?

    Besides what do you want Russia to do in Syria? They cannot do anything. You think Russia should send troops to Syria? Please tell us about your ideas.

  98. masoud says:

    Neil M says:
    September 7, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    So, do you believe those dastardly westerners ‘tricked’ Russia into approving those resolutions against Lybia?

  99. fyi says:

    masoud says:

    September 8, 2014 at 10:21 am

    They went along with it because they could not prevent Axis Powers from destroying Libya.

    On Iran, the Russians have to zig-zag and play acrobatics since they want Iran weak, but not so weak as to make it easy prey for Axis Powers.

    In fact, Russia has no incentive to settle the Iranian nuclear file; by keeping it alive she will always be the indispensable interlocutor to the Axis Powers and Iran.

    And Iran, because of her historical weaknesses, will be the supplicant to Russia.

    Iranians have to re-appraise their priorities; is it more important to get the latest cloth fabrication technology for the production of black chador cloth or the ability to build their own machine goods?

    Is it more important to develop the private sector or to pursue misguided distributive policies rooted in socialistic fantasies?

  100. M.Ali says:

    ” Karl.. says:
    September 8, 2014 at 6:59 am

    M Ali

    On the one hand you say ‘ Oh who cares about Russians we dont need them’ and in the next you say ‘ Only if Russia could help us more’.

    So what is it?”

    I never said “we don’t need them” nor did I say “only if Russia could help us more”. Russia is useful, but not dependable. And that’s fine. Iran should make the best decision for Iran, not Russia or any other country. We should make use of Russia when we can, but we shouldn’t fool ourselves.

    “Besides what do you want Russia to do in Syria? They cannot do anything. You think Russia should send troops to Syria? Please tell us about your ideas.””

    I dont really care what Russia does, because a weak Russia means a stronger Iran. But if Russia was smart, I would say that they should have strengthened their sphere of influence not reduce it. Not sending in troops, but provided arms to Syria, plus financial support, plus intelligence support, and maybe a few token military advisors, to show the world that they are taking an active role in protecting their allies.

    But like I said, I’m happy they are such a shitty ally, it just makes Iran a better partner for the region.

  101. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    The Anglo-French military intervention in Libya was not for the purpose of “destroying” Libya.

  102. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    I think Russia sees Iran as stronger, if Iran makes a deal with P5+1, gets rid of sanctions, etc etc etc. And that Russia sees a stronger Iran, provided it makes the deal, as a good thing.

  103. James Canning says:

    M. Ali,

    Russia obviously is a European country. Though it does have about20 million Muslims. Plus huge holdings in Asia.

  104. James Canning says:

    Sineva,

    Many European diplomats supported Libya’s gradual improvement in relations with Europe and very much wanted to avoid a western military intervention in Libya. William Hague too a good deal of flak for his reluctance to support British military intervention.

    What specifically is the “hole” the US is in, regarding vicious civil war in Syria? Are you referring to demands by some Gulf countries, for continued assistance to “good” rebels seeking overthrow of Bashar- al-Assad?

  105. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Once again you claim that American support for the Shia-controlled Iraqi government is part of a “war” against the “Shia Crescent”. Not true. If you mean the US is concerned Iran might act in such a way as to bring war to the Gulf, you are correct.

  106. nico says:

    James Canning says:
    September 8, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    “The Anglo-French military intervention in Libya was not for the purpose of “destroying” Libya.”

    Sure il was tout destroying Lybia independent stance and influence in Africa.
    Destruction was only a “regretable” collateral effect.
    But contrary to your laughable stance surely western leaders deem that “it was worth it”

    You disgusting criminal absorbing whatever Msm shit thrown at You.
    Disgusting troll

  107. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 8, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    You have to address American planners for the contradictions that you note; how can one claim to be supporting the Shia-dominated government in Iraq while all the while trying to destroy the one state that most strongly supports it locally?

    The possibility of deal with P5+1 is over; they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity to settle with Iran (2003, 2007, 2010).

    Instead, I think Iran should make a deal with ISIS and not interfere with them in their march into Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar, UAE.

    God willing, ISIS and Southern Persian Gulf states will be slugging it out for a few years with the help of US- delaying even further the US war against Iran.

    That would obviate the need for Iran to make any deal with P5+1 as Axis Powers will struggle to maintain control of the oil resources of the Persian Gulf against ISIS.

    There is no down-side for Iran in this scenario.

  108. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 8, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    A strong Iran is one that can safe-guard her continued existence in the face of foreign aggression.

    I do not believe that Russian assistance has been forthcoming in that regard.

    I think Iranian leaders, in all spheres, should ignore what Russia wants. Just like Axis Powers, Russia also had made numerous promises to Iran that she never honored.

  109. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Russia sees that Iran in its own best interests needs to make a deal with the P5+1. You are unhappy with Russia for this reason, and you wish Russia would encourage Iran not to make a deal.

  110. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    As I have noted previously, some very rich and powerful Sunnis, unhappy with the situation in Lebanon and seeing Syria as part of that problem, thought they could overthrow Bashar al-Assad. Based on strong western support once they got a civil war underway.

  111. James Canning says:

    Nico,

    You are wildly mistaken if you think the western military intervention in Libya was intended to “destroy” the country. ABSURD. Full stop. One can argue the intervention was misguided, a blunder, etc etc etc. I opposed it, as you may recall.

  112. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 8, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    qui cum canibus concumbunt cum pulicibus surgent;

    “He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas.”

    Axis Powers’ choice.

  113. kooshy says:

    I believe Mr. Obama’s announcement on his plan of action for fighting (admittedly his country’s own creation) namely the proxy terror group called ISIS, will the final end of international order.

    If Mr. Obama’s DC regime leaks are true, his tomorrow’s announcement of attacking without consent of the recognized seating government of sovereign Syrian Arab republic without a UNSC resolution means: the rogue American regime no longer accepts sovereignty of any country inside of international border in addition to do so she doesn’t see she needs the UNSC permeation. Basically by doing so this current regime in DC has decided she no longer can wait or afford to wait to get a legitimacy cover by going through UNSC while being at the mercy and good will of Russia and China who have the veto power. The DC regime knows, the good will of her client European puddles, France and UK no longer is enough to get an international legitimacy, and since she can obtain approval for her terror actions from the other two veto members she no longer wants or accepts to be bound by her own UN obligations. In fact Mr. Obama’s announcement tomorrow equates to an American declaration of war on every sovereign nation on the planet since she no longer accepts sovereign international borders.

    After USSR, Russia’s big mistakes all along was that they did everything the west asked them, just to be accepted as equal western partner ( funny that they put up with every shit from the west just to get in WTO, for what?, to get in and effectively be sanctioned out of it, LOL), and to preserve their seat at the UNSC, they never thought one day the same way UNSC was purposed and created, with the first chance of any disobedience by them the UN and UNSC will be gone and thrown under the bus. As matter of fact as everybody can see they now are (Russians) almost totally isolated in their own declared region meaning Europe. Therefore as the result they need to look for friends and partners in Asia. As seen in the past, I am sure they willingly will make the same mistake again, since they are (Russians) and always were irrespective of the east including China.

  114. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    John Simpson: Iran is the most charming country on Earth
    For John Simpson, Iran’s incredible monuments, dazzling landscapes and hospitable people make it a holiday destination beyond compare

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/travel/44626/john-simpson-iran-is-the-most-charming-country-on-earth.html

    “Iran is, quite simply, the most charming country I know.

    Until recently, it has been a complete secret. But in the past year or so it has opened up a little. I’ve started reading patronising little mentions of it in travel editors’ diaries. A few discerning people are coming back quite starry-eyed from their visits there. Of course, there’s a definite delight in shocking the neighbours, who have only been to Bali. But after the general intake of breath at the drinks party, yours will be a genuinely fascinating story.

    What always strikes me in Iran is the normality of it.”

    ““Esfahan nesf-e jahan” the Persians say. “Isfahan is half of the world.” And when you’re there, perhaps drinking a little glass of tea in the courtyard of the Abbasi Hotel, I think you might agree it’s the finer half. You’re probably thinking I’ve been paid by the Iran Tourism Board (if such a thing exists) for saying this. Persians, with their habitual joy in conspiracy theories, certainly would. But I’ve been banned from Iran for five years now, and don’t know if I’ll ever be allowed back. Believe me, the loss is mine.”

  115. Sammy says:

    http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2014/sep/09/russian-officials-in-iran-to-boost-economic-ties/

    TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Russian officials have traveled to Iran’s capital to boost economic ties between the two countries.

    Iran’s Oil Minister Bijan Zanganeh and Alexander Novak Minister of Energy of Russian Federation oversaw a meeting Tuesday of businessmen in Tehran, calling on them to increase trade.

    Zanganeh said: “God willing, we will quickly increase the level of relations up to more than 10 times.”

    Novak expressed the readiness of Russia for industrial cooperation, saying: “We have a lot of capabilities to strengthen our cooperation in the fields of electricity, natural gas, oil — as well as nuclear plants and aircraft parts and other equipment.”

    Last year, trade between the two countries was about $1.5 billion.

  116. James Canning says:

    kooshy,

    Didn’t the Syrian foreign minister make clear Syria would welcome US strikes against Isis within Syria?

  117. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Are you calling the rich and powerful Sunnis who wanted western help to overthrow the Syrian government, “fleas”?

  118. kooshy says:

    James Canning says:
    September 9, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    “Didn’t the Syrian foreign minister make clear Syria would welcome US strikes against Isis within Syria?”

    Gav James,

    You mean this news, from your own piece of shit war criminal PM published by your own piece of shit propaganda agency, Gave, do you need to act as if you are chronically misinformed or your London regime don’t allow enough information to pass through?

    David Cameron’s suggestion at the Nato summit that Isis targets in Syria could be attacked without cooperation with Assad clearly reveals the direction of thinking in London and Washington: in the UK prime minister’s formulation, the Syrian president is “part of the problem, not part of the solution,” while Assad’s record of war crimes obviates any need to consult him. And both the US and Britain, after all, have long called for his removal from power.

    Here is what Syrian FM said can you show me where in here he said your shithole island can attack his country without the consent of the elected Syrian Arab republic. Gav. I said it before you better be factual and with reference if you don’t want to get blasted like FYD. I really try hard to be polite and nice here, but sometimes your twisted misinforming comments become really insulting.

    “Sensing a new opportunity after the killing of James Foley, Walid Muallem, Assad’s veteran foreign minister, made the pitch explicitly: “Syria is ready to cooperate and coordinate … [at] the regional and international level in the war on terror,” he pledged.”
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/04/assad-anti-isis-pact-west-cameron-syria

    My reply to your twisted comment is no he didn’t he said we are willing to cooperate on war on terror in an international level specifically he didn’t say you can bomb my country at your will, if you can show me a reference to that I immediately accept if you can’t, like a real English gentleman you need to apologies for misinforming the forum.

  119. James Canning says:

    kooshy,

    The Syrian foreign minister made clear his country was willing and even eager to cooperate with the US for the purpose of attacking Isis forces in Syria. FULL STOP.

    Obama has been reluctant to make public the quandary of sorts, in which the US finds itself. If Isis is the “bad guy”, why have western countries been giving help to enemies of the Syrian government?

  120. James Canning says:

    kooshy,

    The Times (London) recently printed photographs appearing to show 200 captive Syrian government soldiers, and their corpses after execution by Isis forces. Were those photos genuine?

  121. James Canning says:

    kooshy,

    David Cameron has the same awkward situation as Obama: if Isis are the bad guys, why has help been given to enemies of the Syrian government (which obviously include Isis)?

  122. fyi says:

    Sammy says:

    September 9, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    Trade has been limited to about that amount for many years as the Russian Federation joined the economic blockade of Iran.

    I doubt that would change any time soon; if you read the text of the joint news conference of Iranian Oil Minister and his Russian counterpart, you note that the Russian side is large on vision and short on concrete actions.

  123. Sammy says:

    ‘Fyi
    I doubt that would change any time soon; if you read the text of the joint news conference of Iranian Oil Minister and his Russian counterpart, you note that the Russian side is large on vision and short on concrete actions.’

    Another thing which was very interesting in the news is the fact that both sides explicitly stated that the mutual trade would be conducted on non-dollar basis, thus in IRR and Rubel.
    I don’t share your general view that Russia should not be trusted, the SL and Putin share common world views in many areas, thus top priority for Iran imo should be to
    speed up trade and buisness with Russia to a level of at least 20 billion USD, of course in the equivalent currency , as the collapse of the USD will come soon.

    “Obama’s Former Chief Economist Calls For An End To US Dollar Reserve Status”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-08/obamas-former-chief-economist-calls-end-us-dollar-reserve-status

  124. fyi says:

    Sammy says:

    September 9, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    We shall see; but just like Turkey & Iran have isolated their trade from issue of Syria and ISIS, US and Russia will probably isolate the issue of a nuclearized Iran from issue of Ukraine.

    What was offered to Iran was TU204 airplanes, a non-starter for Iran.

    Iranians should not expect much give in the Russian blockade of Iran.

  125. kooshy says:

    Sammy says:
    September 9, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Sammy

    Although I think Russia should not and need not to be fully trusted as an strategic ally of Iran, but I tend to agree with you, Russia of today is totally different and in different strategic need than the Russia of last year or five year ago, if there is an opening and an strategic opportunity Iran shouldn’t miss it based on events of five years ago (30 years ago who ever thought Iraq will one day become an strategic ally of Iran). Russia and Russian strategic situation with Europe has drastically changed and there is no hope of remaking for many years to come, as matter of Eastern Europe events, Russia is now more in same strategic position as Iran is, so they now are and can act in a more of leveled positions unlike the few years back when Russia was bending over to get to WTO. The Russia of Yeltsin after the fall of USSR was more desperate and willing to sign Bushehr or sell Mig-29 to Iran, the Russia of Medvedev who wanted to be part of Europe and a member of WTO was totally non cooperative but today Russia will need Iran so it should be easier to get concessions and transfer of technology from them. Over the last 100 years Iran has got more technology transfer from the Russians than she ever got or will get from the west. But also true base on Russian’s mode the relationship has had ups and downs.

  126. kooshy says:

    test1

  127. Sammy says:

    Yeah , we always knew it , the perfect weapon of mass destruction in the hands of the Anglo-Zionists :

    ‘US using Ebola to advance its imperialist agenda in Africa: Azikiwe’

    http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/09/09/378229/us-uses-ebola-to-advance-imperialist-agenda/

    The United States is using the epidemic of the Ebola virus to advance its imperialist agenda in West Africa, a civil rights activist and journalist in Detroit says.

    Abayomi Azikiwe, editor of the Pan-African News Wire, made the remarks in a phone interview with Press TV on Tuesday while commenting on President Barack Obama’s announcement that the US military will be involved in tackling the Ebola outbreak in West Africa, arguing that it represents a serious national security concern.

    “I believe this is just another means for the United States military intelligence’s deeper penetration of the African continent. Already the United States has military presence in Libya, in Sierra Leone, as well in the west African state of Nigeria, all of which have been… impacted by the epidemic of the Ebola virus,” Azikiwe said.

    “The only way in which this disease can be tackled is through the proliferation of medical personnel, trained doctors, nurses, the development of the field hospitals and clinics, and it’s through this process that the disease can be arrested,” he added….

  128. fyi says:

    Sammy says:

    September 10, 2014 at 1:23 am

    Why doesn’t a Muslim state develop a vaccine for Ebola and send her citizens to freely distribute and inoculate all those wretched Africans?

  129. Rd. says:

    kooshy says:

    “Although I think Russia should not and need not to be fully trusted as an strategic ally of Iran”

    Russia to build Iran’s first railway-manufacturing factory

    http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/economy/59765.html

    these may be meager steps, as you suggest, they are changing. The big question may be better answered when IRI’s full membership in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) is resolved. Perhaps a better measure of Russia and China’s approach to Iran, not necessary as an ally, but in strategic terms, are they willing to be more accommodating.

  130. kooshy says:

    This one is for our ever patient consistent hosts Flynt and Hillary Mann Leverett

    Obama Should Play Nixon and Go to Iran(TEHRAN)
    34 SEP 9, 2014 9:25 AM EDT
    By Noah Smith

    “But there is an encouraging precedent: the China-U.S. rapprochement of the 1970s. The U.S. had been a dogged opponent of Communist China, even fighting a war against it in Korea. But the two countries managed to form an unofficial alliance after the Sino-Soviet split, and that partnership was key to winning the Cold War.”

  131. kooshy says:

    The article I just posted was published on Bloomberg yesterday but for some reason this site don’t let me to post the Bloomberg link.

  132. Karl.. says:

    fyi

    September 10, 2014 at 8:29 am

    THat is, muslims must get rid of Islam to progress is that what you are saying?

  133. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    September 10, 2014 at 1:45 pm

    I am irritated by all these weak-minds, always blaming the Axis Powers for this and that – and yet they themselves or their countries are always sleep at the wheel; contributing nothing but whining all the same.

    Go back 23 years and look at the Somali famine.

    The American people wanted their government to go do something for those wretched African Muslims.

    So Mr. Bush I send US military forces to make that country safe for UN food delivery; much of that food contributed by the United States.

    Here is my question:

    Where was Iran? or Saudi Arabia? Or Turkey? or Pakistan? Or Indonesia? Or Malaysia?

    I tell you: nowhere.

    Whose fault was that? Axis Powers?

    I think not.

  134. Karl.. says:

    fyi

    A question I would say that stems US resources/capabilities and foremost interests. Although Saudi and Pakistan both supported UN efforts in Somalia but what are the reason according to you then that these “muslims nations” didnt help Somalia then?

  135. kooshy says:

    I am very impressed with Dr Rohani’s speech in Tajikestan today, previously I wasn’t aware how versed he is on Persian history and literature. Very good speech in Persian .
    http://www.irna.ir/fa/News/81307983/

  136. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    September 10, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    Ask them.

  137. masoud says:

    Anyone seen Obama’s declaration of war on Syria today? It’s a direct result of Zarif and Rouhani-e-Ahmag’s now year long engagement in taurof.

    No one needs years of bombing to deal with Isis.Just turn off the taps and Isis dries up and shrivels away within a matter of months. Once Obama starts bombing, he’s not going to stop until Nusrah is safely and ensconsed in Damascus. Unless Iraq, Syria, Russia and Iran can put up a united front, this will all be merely the beginning.

  138. Amir says:

    kooshy says:
    September 10, 2014 at 9:32 am

    Kooshy jan,
    I’m not sure if you had read the whole piece, but it contains this passage:

    “A flood of Iranian oil would give the U.S. the ability to level much heavier sanctions against Russia, and would ensure global oil supplies in the event that a broader conflict in Eastern Europe disrupts Russian oil supplies. In other words, becoming friendlier with Iran would strengthen our hand against the suddenly aggressive Russians.”

    Have you heard of the three cows, one white, another black and the last brown. Ans the dying lion pitted them against each other, and ate them one by one?
    The US has never been trustworthy and it’s unlikely that it would ever be. That doesn’t mean we must throw in our lot with the Russians… but the Americans? I don’t think so.

  139. Khomeini says:

    I have just seen Obama’s declaration of shock and awe “war on Syria”. It is indeed to weaken Syrian Army position in the hope of strengthening “imported” rebels so that these terrorists can regain lost territory/positions.

    When just over 10 days ago Saudi Arabian antique Queen ABUdullah Obama scaremonger west by claiming that ISIS will commit acts of terror in west, I knew that it is another attempt by Saudis to instigate US to re-activate last year’s American desire to bomb Syria – the ultimate goal is to remove Assad and weaken Iran and axis of resistance.

    As for Russians, they will not do anything productive despite Russian foreign minister stating that US plan of air strike in Syria is to “weaken Asad’s position” – third video, fast forward to 2:20 (http://rt.com/usa/186840-obama-islamic-state-address/).

    As for Iran’s Zarif and co, these lot will do anything in the hope of gaining American love. I bet Zarif and co and telling US “listen darling, if you agree to fall in love with Iran we will help you bomb Syria”. It happened before – remember Khatami government’s active help for US invasion of Afghanistan!!! But alas, as soon as US invaded Afghanistan Iran was included in “Axis of Evil” !!! Same is about to happen in case of Syria. As soon as US destroys Syrian Army, if it can that is, US will back off from any promises made to Zarif and co.

  140. Karl.. says:

    Khomeini

    Yes its quite interesting that US could bomb iran’s biggest friend Syria and they wont do anything, not even criticism.

  141. fyi says:

    Khomeini says:

    September 11, 2014 at 6:19 am

    He is just executing a tactical strategy until he is out of the office.

    US is now in a very bad place politically; essentially she is waging war against all Muslims; Shia, Sunni, Druze, Alawite…

    Excellent news for the Shia Crescent…

  142. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    September 11, 2014 at 9:39 am

    US is going to wage air war on ISIS – until Mr. Obama is out of office.

    Why should Iran or Syrian governments complain about that?

  143. Karl.. says:

    fyi
    September 11, 2014 at 10:21 am

    Illegal for one? Syria havent said they’d be ok with US bombing their land.

  144. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    September 11, 2014 at 10:23 am

    There is no international law.

    Let Mr. Obama go and bomb Sunni Arabs; he is the one who started his presidency by delivering a speech at Cairo – seeking a new beginning with the Arab World.

    He chose to be continue the policies of Mr. Bush II; these are the consequences.

    Had he had settled strategically with Iran, he would not be in this predicament that he finds himself now.

    This is the bed he has spread, let him sleep in it.

  145. Karl.. says:

    fyi

    That argument will only give US or any other regime the right to abolish international law. It will only make it easier for US to justify bomb Iran (if it comes to that) in the future with the same rejection of what the law says.
    These people dont stop.

  146. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    September 11, 2014 at 10:53 am

    I repeat, there is no International Law; US can do whatever she wants.

    US destroyed NPT – what more do you want?

  147. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    September 11, 2014 at 10:53 am

    EU is has been waging an economic war for 4 years against Iran in order to eviscerate her social fabric and pave the way for the start of US war to destroy the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    Prior to that, she helped destroy the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

    EU can destroy International Law as much as US, or Russia, or India, or China.

  148. Karl.. says:

    fyi

    Of course there is a international law, I dont see why you keep saying that, it only benefit people like obama and the other neocon gang.

    What would happen if Iran said they’re going to bomb Israel due its occupation.
    Will west then too say there is no international law? Or when Russia doesn something, arent west bringing up the law 24-7 then? Yes they do.

  149. Khomeini says:

    Karl.. says:
    September 11, 2014 at 9:39 am

    “Yes its quite interesting that US could bomb iran’s biggest friend Syria and they wont do anything, not even criticism.”

    well if you mean by criticism leap-service; that Zarif and co has done. The link below has what Zarif’s favourite spokeswoman had to say about US intention of fighting ISIS.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/09/11/378390/iran-questions-antiisil-coalition-motive/

  150. Karl.. says:

    Khomeini

    Sure but I thought when someone bomb your best friend there would be a stronger criticism than that statement.

  151. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    September 11, 2014 at 11:29 am

    There is no Law if it is not enforceable.

    I am waiting for EU to sanction US for the “illegal” invasion of Iraq.

    I am waiting for UK to do that and the sitting PM at the time to be tried and jailed.

    Iranians,

    having been invaded during World War I
    having been invaded during World II,
    having endured the illegal siege warfare of UK against them from 1950-1953,
    having their government overthrown in 1953,
    having endured the war initiated by Iraq,
    having witnessed the raping of CWT by Iraq with active support of US & EU and China and USSR against themselves,
    having watched the destruction of the Iraqi and Yugoslav states
    and now enduring the siege war of Axis Powers against them

    should maintain zero belief in “International Law”.

    Iran should become a Law-unto-Herself; like the Sassanid or Achaemenid or Seljuk Empires.

    Anything else is only suitable for weak minds and courts disaster for the Iranian people and allied states and peoples.

  152. fyi says:

    All:

    I agree with this and I believe everyone know my policy prescription for Iran:

    http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/

  153. Karl.. says:

    fyi

    Well thats a difference there, there is a law but US (in this case) arent following it.
    If there is no law we shouldnt we support Obama?

  154. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    September 11, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    Mr. Obama has brought the Middle East and the world on the verge of a generalized war.

    Anyone who wants to support him is supporting a march down to World War III.

  155. Karl.. says:

    fyi

    And he got there not by saying ‘obama can do whatever he wants, there is no law’?
    Or how do you mean one should object to what US are doing right now?

  156. fyi says:

    Karl.. says:

    September 11, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    Watch what they do and not what they say.

  157. James Canning says:

    Victor Mallet has a fine report in the Financial Times today: “Population not politics spell danger for Pakistan”. Too many people already, and too many being added year by year.

  158. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Not long ago, you were arguing Obama was not doing enough to fight Isis in Iraq.

  159. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Purpose of EU sanctions against Iran is to avoid war in the Gulf. The collapse of Yugoslavia was not the fault of the EU.

  160. James Canning says:

    Karl..,

    The Syrian foreign minister was on TV a few weeks ago, making clear Syria would welcome US attacks on Isis forces in Syria.

  161. Fiorangela says:

    Canning @ 1:36 pm:

    “Purpose of EU sanctions against Iran is to avoid war in the Gulf. ”

    Does anyone know a lady-like way to say Bullshit?

    Next we’ll have Canning bleating that the purpose of sanctions on Iraq was to turn Iraqi children into Beefeaters strong enough to guard Her Royal Majesty.

    Looks like the IAEA/Amano ball of lies is coming unwound.

    IAEA Director General to Punt the Iran PMD Issue to [a political vote by] the Board of Governors

    QUOTE: [Joyner]: “I don’t think the IAEA should have ever started down the path of investigation and assessment on this issue, but given that they have, surely it must be recognized that this is essentially a technical matter – i.e. whether there is sufficient evidence of a nuclear weaponization program in Iran in the past. It is not a political matter. How, then, are the political representative of 35 countries on the IAEA BOG qualified in any way to make this determination?

    This seems to me to be a complete cop-out – a surrender by the IAEA DG’s office. Whether it’s a surrender to facts (i.e. the DG’s office doesn’t have, and knows it never will have, enough information to really make the call technically, and is afraid to admit it) or a surrender to politics (i.e. the US and others are pressuring Amano to get the PMD issue resolved, and this is the only way to face-savingly do it) or more likely a combination of both, this can’t be the way Amano hoped this PMD inquiry would be resolved. Although, again, I don’t know what his plan was to begin with.”

  162. Karl.. says:

    Fiorangela

    Dont be stupid, we all know the sanctions on Iraq didnt lead to wa…

    Some people never learn, best is to ignore their them and their bs.

  163. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 11, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    He still is not.

    He and the Arab autocrats of the Southern Persian Gulf need ISIS to beat the Shia Crescent.

    They still think that they can control and manipulate ISIS.

    ISIS will grow, and God-willing, destroy the enemies of the Shia and Iran – Elahi Ameen.

  164. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    In effect you claim John Kerry is in Baghdad, seeking to firm up support for the effort against Isis, as part of a scheme intended to see Isis overthrow the Iraqi government. This is silly.

  165. James Canning says:

    Fiorangela,

    Perhaps I should remind you that the High Seas fleet built by the German Empire prior to the First World War was the Imperial Navy. Not the German merchant marine.

    The EU sanctions are intended to encourage Iran to limit its nuclear programme in order to avoid potential war in the Gulf. FULL STOP.

    And I will say once again, that Saddam’s own extreme incompetence kept the sanctions in place against Iraq, after the Gulf War in 1991.

  166. James Canning says:

    Karl..,

    I agree the sanctions against Iraq did not cause the 2003 Iraq War. The sanctions did damage Iraqi business interests that might have made the conspiracy to set up the invasion of Iraq much more difficult to succeed.

  167. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 11, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    US policy is extremely incoherent and I do not have to explain it; its formulators must do so.

  168. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Incoherence, or inconsistency, is a product of various pressures working on the making of US policy. As I have noted earlier, it is awkward for Obama to say on the one hand Syria’s government and army are “the bad guys”, when he now likely will be attacking insurgents who hope to overthrow the Syrian government.

  169. Karl.. says:

    Fiorangela

    p.s he doesnt understand irony.

  170. James Canning says:

    Karl..,

    Are you claiming the sanctions against Iraq “caused” the 2003 US invasion?

  171. Nasser says:

    Karl..,

    It seems to me Mr. Obama and the US strategic community was at first hesitant to do much of anything against ISIS and was content to let the “savages” just kill each other.

    But unfortunately ISIS’ gruesome executions has a significant portion of the US body politic calling for bloody revenge and he has thus been forced to oblige. Mr. Obama is a superb politician and doesn’t care much for strategy; whatever the polls tell him to do, he will do.

    But I agree with you that the danger that is once US military actions in Syria and Iraq has been normalized, the US could easily turn to bombing Iran’s allies and Shiite militias rather than ISIS.

    Thus I do think it would be wise for Iran and Syria to make loud public protests from day one. And those idiot Iraqi Shias need to be reprimanded for being so damn panicky and letting the fox into the hen house.

  172. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 11, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    Nasser says:

    September 11, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    When the sanctions did not cause state collapse in Iraq; Americans went in.

    Same approach was attempted with Iran.

    As we have seen, since 2003, P5+1 do not wish to retire Iran Nuclear File – I won’t belabor my position.

    I think Iranian planners should assume that US, ISIS and others will seek to destroy Iran and her allies in the coming months and years ahead.

    Iranians should plan accordingly.

  173. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    My understanding is that the warmongers pushing for the US invasion of Iraq were deeply concerned that UN weapons inspectors would establish there were no grounds for the invasion. This is the key reason the invasion was launched. To PREVENT exposure of the truth.

  174. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Once again, you argue in effect that the US is trying to shore up Iraqi government, to confront Isis, as part of a larger plan for Isis to overthrow the Iraqi government. This is simply silly.

  175. James Canning says:

    Nasser,

    Syria made clear it would welcome US air strikes on Isis targets in Syria.

    I agree there is a danger US actions in Syria could enlarge.

  176. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    The sanctions against Iraq had worked very well, on the whole. Concealing this fact was a key element of the strategy pursued by the warmongers who set up the US invasion.

  177. Fiorangela says:

    James Canning says:
    September 11, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    1. “Perhaps I should remind you that the High Seas fleet built by the German Empire prior to the First World War was the Imperial Navy. Not the German merchant marine.”

    “When Churchill became First Lord of the Admiralty in October 1911, the navy had already acknowledged the seriousness of the German and American naval challenges by abandoning its traditional policy of maintaining a “two-power standard” in capital ships measured against the next two strongest naval powers. In 1909 the Admiralty decided that British security would be preserved by maintaining a superiority of sixty per cent in capital ships over Germany alone. Churchill announced the new standard to Parliament in March 1912 while introducing the navy’s annual estimates for 1912-13. The two power standard had been a reasonable guide, he explained, when “the next two strongest naval Powers were France and Russia, and when those two Powers were also the what one might call the most probable adverse diplomatic combination”. But the rise of the German navy had transformed the situation. Britain now faced “a very powerful homogenous Navy, manned and trained by the greatest organising people of the world, obeying the authority of a single Government, and concentrated within easy distance of our shores”. It was therefore time, he maintained, to “readjust our standards in closer accord with the actual facts and probable contingencies”.6 Churchill also announced that Britain would build two additional capital ships for every one added to the existing German programme. These were expensive commitments, as the new German navy law of 1912 signalled Germany’s plans not just to build more dreadnoughts, but also to keep a higher percentage of warships in full commission at all
    3
    times, significantly increasing the immediate striking power of the High Seas fleet.
    Churchill was determined to maintain the sixty per cent margin of superiority over Germany in dreadnought battleships, but he regarded new construction as only a partial solution to the German naval threat: Britain would also need to concentrate its capital ships as far as possible in home waters, where they would be immediately available in the event of a crisis. He announced in March 1912 that battleships would be withdrawn from the Mediterranean for this purpose. The revisionists maintain that Fisher wanted the Royal Navy to be equally capable of protecting British home waters, trade routes, and imperial possessions. All of these, Sumida argues, “were vital – one could not be emphasized at the expense of the others without risk of disaster”.7 Churchill took a different view. The foundation of his naval strategy prior to the First World War was the primacy of British home waters over all other theatres and requirements. In his opinion, Britain had at all times to retain a pronounced numerical superiority over the German fleet in the North Sea, which he regarded as the decisive theatre in any future war. “[M]astery on the seas” did not depend, he
    noted in January 1912, “on the simultaneous occupation of every sea.”
    END QUOTE http://www.winstonchurchill.org/images/Naval_Revolution_Reconsidered.pdf

    Executive summary: Against the advances of American and German naval, industrial, and commercial endeavors, the British under Churchill determined to maintain military/naval dominance as well as protection for its commercial/trade routes; i.e. both Royal Navy and “merchant marine.”

    Is there some immutable law of nature that demands that all other nations/entities refrain from competing, James?

  178. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    I read Jamal Khashoggi’s opinion piece you linked, and I do not see where it demands Iran’s “surrender”.

    Khashoggi in effect says the Shia must share power to some degree, in Iraq, with the Sunnis. You dispute this?

  179. James Canning says:

    Fiorangela,

    The German Empire very foolishly threatened Britain by building powerful battleships intended to make possible German control of the German Sea (aka North Sea), to enable an invasion of Britain by the very powerful Germany army.

    Germany forced Britain to ally itself with France. This was strategic folly of a very high order.

  180. James Canning says:

    Fiorangela,

    Armaments manufacturers helped to cause the strategically foolish building of a powerful Imperial Navy, by Germany, in the years before 1914.

    Germany’s global trade was increasing steadily, and this was not dependent in any way, shape or form, on a powerful Imperial Navy.

  181. Fiorangela says:

    James Canning says:
    September 11, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    2. “The EU sanctions are intended to encourage Iran to limit its nuclear programme in order to avoid potential war in the Gulf. FULL STOP.”

    Nonsense.
    a. The NPT is the mechanism that that vaunted entity, the civilized world, run by the equally vaunted rule of law employs to monitor nuclear programs. Iran signed onto, abides by, and is monitored under the provisions and regulations of that rule of law. Sanctions, whether by EU or any other, are extra-legal; they break the bounds of agreed-upon legal mechanisms to “limit nuclear” activity.

    The UN Charter is the agreed-upon “rule of law” by which nations “avoid potential war.”

    FULL STOP

    The activities of zionists Stuart Levey, Daniel Cohen, Juan Zarate and their assembled band of “guerrillas in grey suits” at US Dept of Treasury, who have created for themselves the extraordinary right to combine the financial power of US financial system with the intrusive capabilities of the US National Security (spy) Agency, to surveil and constrain the financial activities of nations around the world, and to blackmail them and shake them down, are NOT activities contemplated by US Constitutional authority. The US Treasury Dept. has NO enforcement authority under NPT; US Treasury Dept. is acting outside its legal framework and outside the bounds of international agreements to maintain peace in the Gulf and everywhere else in the world.

    Please stop providing cover for the lawbreakers, James; it makes you look stupid.

  182. kooshy says:

    FYD

    Perhaps this the beginning
    or the awakening that Americans like our own
    Fior have worked on for years to take back this
    Country. Not much chance of a real sustainable endurance. The greed in this folks never fails them to get the same treatment every time.

    “Cruz walks off stage after hecklers disrupt speech on Middle East Christians”

  183. Fiorangela says:

    James Canning says:
    September 11, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    3. “And I will say once again, that Saddam’s own extreme incompetence kept the sanctions in place against Iraq, after the Gulf War in 1991.”

    And Jeffrey Engel, who is putting the finishing touches on a manuscript of George H. W. Bush’s decision to go to war against Iraq in 1990-91, and his subsequent decisions not to pursue that war into Baghdad in order to take down Saddam, would summon at least five powerful sets of evidence to support the claim that you are dead wrong. http://www.c-span.org/video/?310832-1/book-discussion-desert-reflections-gulf-war (feel free to fast-forward past the “Howdy” routines).

    G H W Bush was determined to wage war on Iraq without regard to anything Saddam did or did not do. The fall of the Berlin wall and the resultant “enemy vacuum”; and the fact that US no longer had a counterbalancing power to constrain its freedom of movement internationality, had far more to do with the sanctioning and subsequent waging of war on Iraq and devastation of that nation and its people than did anything Saddam Hussein, or 500,000 dead Iraqi children did or did not do. G H W Bush fancied himself the Master of the Universe of the New World Order.

  184. Fiorangela says:

    For Ted Cruz — If you will not stand with Americans, why should they stand with you?

    “Fifteen-year old Tampa, Florida Palestinian-American Tariq Abu Khdeir was beaten by Israeli police”
    www dot huffingtonpost dot com/2014/07/07/tariq-abu-khdeir-beaten_n_5565266.html

    Muhammad Abu Khdeir
    http://pauleisen.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/a-light-unto-nations.html
    www dot the guardian dot com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive

    Rachel Corrie — Crushed under a bulldozer driven by IDF on its way to demolish the home of a Palestinian physician
    https colon www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=cUoZGnvZwNY

    23 year old Turkish-American Furkan Dogan — shot execution-style by IDF while on board Greek ship in international waters
    http colon mondoweiss dot net/2013/02/documents-execution-american

    21-year old American college student Emily Henochowicz shot with IDF tear-gas canister; budding artist loses left eye.
    www dot democracynow dot org/2010/6/3/emily

    What is even more disturbing about Ted Cruz’s speech and demagoguery is his Us (Christians and Jews) against Them formulation.

    THAT is antithetical to anything and everything Jesus taught.

  185. Fiorangela says:

    James Canning says:
    September 11, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    The Devil Made Me Do It

  186. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 11, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Yes, I do dispute this since he is just being ingenious; Sunnis in Iraq want to be back on top – that is the sum total of it.

    They do not consider this government legitimate (they thought otherwise about the Ba’ath state) and Saudi propagandists know Westerners all too well and know which buttons to push.

    In fact, there is no middle ground in Iraq – either Shia will be on top or the Sunni.

    US is still waging a war against the Shia Crescent; that has not changed.

  187. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 11, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    Indeed they had worked very well; they destroyed the professional classes and shredded what was left of Iraq’s cohesion.

    Not to mention causing several hundred thousands of deaths due to disease and malnutrition.

    That is exactly the intent of Axis Power sanctions against Iran; but Iran was not Iraq and things did not turn out the Axis Powers expected.

    Likewise in Syria; which necessitated the concocted cause belli of the bogus chemical attack. I again state my agreement with Mr. Hack; the war in Syria was to be followed by war against Iran.

    Of course, now is too late for Axis Powers to initiate those wars – they have ISIS to content with.

  188. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 11, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    Do not argue with me, argue with the White House.

    Why do you think I have stated that the King is stark raving Mad?

  189. kooshy says:

    “What is even more disturbing about Ted Cruz’s speech and demagoguery is his Us (Christians and Jews) against Them formulation.”

    Yes the Judeo-Christian formulation is US (at Christians expense) against THEM so we can be able to occupy and take position of their olive trees

  190. Empty says:

    RE: Victor Mallet has a fine report in the Financial Times today: “Population not politics spell danger for Pakistan”. Too many people already, and too many being added year by year.

    Pakistan population density: 225.0 people per square kilometer
    England population density: 406.4 people per square kilometer

    An English is lecturing Pakistanis on their number of people. That’s rich.

  191. Karl.. says:

    what a complete jerk cruz is, he thought he was at aipac meeting or something? And why would any christian group invite this man?
    He talked more about jews and Israel than christians itself.

  192. fyi says:

    Empty says:

    September 11, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    You are quite right, population is not the issue – the minds of these people and the way they are led is the main issue in Pakistan as well as everywhere else.

    Look at Korea and Mexico….

  193. Karl.. says:

    Nasser
    September 11, 2014 at 4:40 pm


    “But I agree with you that the danger that is once US military actions in Syria and Iraq has been normalized, the US could easily turn to bombing Iran’s allies and Shiite militias rather than ISIS.”

    Right, same goes for sanctions too, being glad as some people here that US use sanctions on Russia just make it acceptable to use sanctions in general, for example on Iran.

  194. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    South Korea has done very well to achieve stable population. Mexico?

  195. James Canning says:

    Empty,

    You appear to argue that Pakistan has ample water for its huge and growing population. Wrong.

  196. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Inconsistencies in foreign policy do not necessarily indicate “madness”. I take it you agree the US is trying to shore up the Shia-controlled government of Iraq, so that it can fights Isis.

  197. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    The sanctions against Iraq did not “cause” the 2003 US invasion of Iraq. Agreed?

    That Saddam Hussein in effect concealed the fact he complied with the UN order for destruction of his WMD after the Gulf War surely was foolish.

  198. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Clearly some Saudis would like to see a restoration of a Sunni dictatorship in Iraq.
    However, exclusion of Sunnis from all power etc in Iraq is clearly not an option for the Shia community in that country.

  199. James Canning says:

    Fiorangela,

    Clearly the P5+1 do not want Iran to exercise its full rights under the NPT. No dispute here. However, the purpose of the EU sanctions against Iran are to AVOID war in the Gulf. If possible.

  200. James Canning says:

    c’d purpose is to AVOID war

  201. James Canning says:

    Fiorangela,

    You regard German arms manufacturers prior to 1914 as “the devil”? They were merely doing their job, in a sense. But it was a strategic disaster for Germany.

  202. Nasser says:

    Karl.. says: September 12, 2014 at 11:14 am

    Look, Iranians better get used to the idea that sanctions are here to stay. When western states have such an effective means of leverage against others, they will use it. Period.

    And yes I do believe sanctions against Russia are indeed a welcome development for Iran, for all non western economies, and for Russia as well.

    To quote Fyodor Lukyanov: “Sanctions against Russia may have effects that were not so clearly seen before. For the first time, the United States has clearly demonstrated that it controls the world economic system: The Visa and MasterCard payment systems can “shut off” financial institutions that fall under American sanctions, and global IT companies are willing to terminate relationships with “undesirable” clients.

    Such actions have been undertaken before, but applied to countries many times inferior to Russia in terms of political and economic weight and less integrated into the global economy. Using this method in relations with Russia forces other major global powers to make some difficult choices. They must ask themselves to what extent they can rely on global economic and communications systems if it is so easy for dominating powers to shut off access when it suits their interests. The sanctions against Russia could therefore result in a fragmentation of financial and communications systems and lend further impetus to the multipolar restructuring of the world both politically and economically.”

    http://eng.globalaffairs.ru/redcol/In-Ukraine-Yanukovich-opened-Pandoras-Box-16634

  203. James Canning says:

    Nasser,

    Iran probably COULD get rid of the sanctions, were it not for domestic politics within Iran.

    Iraq probably COULD have gotten rid of the sanctions against Iraq.

  204. fyi says:

    Nasser says:

    September 12, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    Russians are offended that they are treated like Iran, a “minor state” in their view.

    I agree with you that with the failure of the P5+1 negotiations, even the very remote possibility of the removal of sanctions against Iran has been eliminated.

    Furthermore, Russia will not breach the economic siege war against Iran; she will not help Iran. Iran got nothing from Russia in Dushanbe yesterday.

    Iranians must ignore all the noises of US, EU, and Russia and go their own way; in Iraq, in Syria, in Afghanistan, in the Persian Gulf and in nuclear industries; since for the next decade, US and her allies would be fighting ISIS – if not longer.

    Americans would not be launching a war against Iran as long as they fight ISIS.

    Anyway, the worst of the sanctions war is over and Iran will be improving in the years and decades to come.

  205. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 12, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Are you daft sir?

    Power-sharing in Iraq is the code-word for Saudis to install a Sunni dictatorship there.

    There is no middle ground in Iraq; it is either Shia Arabs on top or Sunni Arabs on top.

    The fools Kurds thought that there was a margin in playing ISIS against the Shia Arabs; that failed miserably.

  206. Nasser says:

    fyi says: September 12, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    “Power-sharing in Iraq is the code-word for Saudis to install a Sunni dictatorship there.”

    – Precisely!

    Just like in Lebanon the Sunni political strategy is very easy to recognize: to use Wahabi crazies to scare the Shias into making strategic concessions.

    Iraqi Shias and Iran would be very foolish indeed if they cede to demands of an “inclusive government”

    Otherwise, surely the Saudis and Americans plan to use the Sunnis to hijack Iraq in the same manner the Galicians did Ukraine.

    That is why despite my many misgivings regarding Mr. Maliki I supported him precisely because he was so unpalatable to the Sunnis and the Saudis.

  207. Nasser says:

    fyi says: September 12, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    I am not sure I agree that the US will be fighting ISIS for the next decade and thus Iran can take a breather.

    I think Mr. Obama is launching halfhearted attacks on ISIS only because of domestic politics. Many Americans are crying for bloody revenge and ridiculing and calling Obama weak after the gruesome decapitation videos posted by ISIS. So he must at least appear to be acting tough.

    It seems to me what he has done is what he always wanted to do but under a different guise. He is still deferring to the Saudi position on the Iraq-Syria theater. He still wants regime change in Syria; this time the rebels will not be trained and controlled through Jordan but from Saudi Arabia itself. And he wants to use the supposed threat of ISIS to force the Iraqi Shias into surrendering their political power by forming an “inclusive government.”

    I believe the Iraqi Shias made a big mistake in inviting the fox right into the hen house.
    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Cartoons.aspx?id=1489#axzz3D8HX6Hs1

  208. BiBiJon says:

    Don’t miss
    http://thediplomat.com/2014/09/the-new-improved-shanghai-cooperation-organization/

    Which I guess is the real reason for the new “sweeping US EU sanctions on Russia announced today, the same day coincidentally that NYT headline tells us: “Ukraine President Says Truce Is Growing Stronger”

    On SCO expansion, a grouping that includes the atheist, the Orthodox, the Sunni, The Shiite, and the Hindu is an answer to the lame excuse that the world is in the midst of a religious clash.

    Will China & Russia trade Iran (not admit her to SCO) in exchange for Ukraine, and South China Sea? Waiting to find out.

  209. fyi says:

    Mr. Nasser:

    Iran does not have the air force assets to protect infantry units or to bomb ISIS; US is kindly performing the second task – half-heartedly as you say – because she needs ISIS against the Shia and because ISIS dared to attack the new American pet, KRG.

    US and other Sunni states are still in the state of denial – they do not yet grasp the fact that ISIS is an existential threat to them as the Caliphate consolidates.

    As for Free Syrian Army being trained in Saudi Arabia – that must be a sick joke; and to expect FSA then to succeed in the overthrow of SAR is sheer fantasy.

    One is reminded of the early stage of World War II; with UK trying to convince NAZI Germany to attack USSR.

    Iran should steer clear of being sucked into that.

  210. Nasser says:

    Dr. Cordesman “The “Best Game in Town” – Five Key Risks of the President’s Strategy”

    I did agree with this:
    “Iran may also conclude that it will ultimately be better off with a somewhat divided Sunni Iraqi West and Kurds that stay in the Iraqi state but remain divided from Arabs. Both forms of internal tension in Iraq would pressure a still Shi’ite dominated Iraqi regime to be somewhat more dependent on Iran.”

    http://csis.org/publication/best-game-town-five-key-risks-presidents-strategy

  211. fyi says:

    BiBiJon says:

    September 12, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    No, Russia will not breach the siege wall against Iran.

    If she were to do so, we would have heard of it by now.

    All the comings and goings of Iranian officials with the Russian officials is contingent of Iran surrendering in the nuclear negotiations. In fact, Russians are dangling economic incentives in from of Iran; complementing the others in the P5+1 forum.

    Nothing will come from that as nothing has come from the recent negotiations either.

    A few years from now, Russia might revisit her trade with Iran but not now – she still thinks that she can play Iran and US,

  212. fyi says:

    Nasser says:

    September 12, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    God willing, ISIS will destroy the enemies of Shia and Iran; Elahi Ameen.

    If not, mindless Arabs can go there and play at building their fantasy castles…

  213. A-B says:

    It is interesting that, in the videos above, while Obama hadn’t decided yet to get involved in Syria, it is the genocidal Britishite Cameron that is hawkish! In the second video, the POS willingly, almost boastfully, admits that the FAKE beheading of the white-hack is done by a Brit, thus the ISIS problem is suddenly NOT a “foreign problem” but a British one, giving, I assume, this Britishite right to interfere in Syria! Well, if an ALLEGED terrorist attack (9/11) on American soil gave the Americans right to invade Afghanistan (‘ironically’ NOT Saudi-Wahhabia!!) then Syria, based on the confession of this British Savage, has the right to bomb the shit out of shitty Britain, no? But it all make sense in the way the Anglo-American mafia manufacture problems and terrorists to exploit (see my previous post September 4, 2014 at 5:16 am)

    K1-N

  214. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    I think Russia is trying to help Iran, to achieve a deal between P5+1 and Iran. For Iran’s benefit.

  215. BiBiJon says:

    fyi says:
    September 12, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    You don’t say? Really? Wow! Try and be more emphaatic next time, I might buy it.

    Playing Iran was the old game, before missile defense batteries in Poland and czech Republic, before the Nuland cookies, and definitely before the “sweeping US/EU sanctions.” It was ‘second term’ promises to Medvedev. Iran is now a meaningless chip in that game.

    In contrast, Russia’s view of SCO, which is the only meaningful counter balance to the unipolar world order, an SCO without Iran is an SCO without a key element. If SCO burns its bridges to Iran, it can be a costly long-term mistake. Therefore, “all the comings and goings” is pregnant with the future of the world order.

  216. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    The US “needs Isis against the Shia”? Silly.

  217. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    The British warned Stalin that the Germans were going to attack the Soviet Union. Stalin thought this was a trick.

    The UK tried to protect Poland. As you know, Hitler and Stalin made a deal to partition that country between themselves.

  218. James Canning says:

    Nasser,

    I understand that Iran has advised Iraqi officials for years now, on not doing too much to exclude Sunnis from power in Iraq.

  219. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Given the demographics obtaining in Iraq, a Sunni dictatorship is highly unlikely to be reinstalled in Baghdad. Very nearly inconceivable.

  220. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 12, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    The late Joseph Stalin’s deal with the late Chancellor Hitler was caused by the English refusal to enter an alliance against Germany – together with France – with USSR.

    The late Commissar of Foreign Affairs Litvinov was the champion of that idea but the English deliberately scuttled it; they wanted Germany to attack USSR.

    No historical analogy is perfect but clearly Mr. Rouhani may be viewed as a champion of seeking a settlement with the Axis Powers in which Axis Powers are uninterested; ISIS is the analogue of the NAZI Germany, and Iran that of USSR.

    If this analogy even partially obtains, one must conclude that the best course for Iran would be to make a deal now with ISIS and buy a few years of peace during which time she prepares herself for the war that is going to come her way.

  221. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 12, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    The demographics in Bahrain is not precluding a Sunni autocracy now, does it?

  222. fyi says:

    BiBiJon says:

    September 12, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    Let us watch and see.

    In a year, we can again visit the balance of trade between Iran an Russia and arrive at a more accurate assessment.

  223. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 12, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    Be advised that this view is widely shared among Iranians – leaders as well as followers; that ISIS is a creation of Axis Powers for war against the Shia – of which they have lost at least partial control.

    Serious people among Iranian analysts are so inclined an you calling me an them silly is not convincing.

  224. Nasser says:

    fyi,

    If even the Axis powers and the Saudis can’t come to an agreement with ISIS, then how can Iran possibly do so?

    It seems to me that though the rank and file of ISIS is filled with pan Islamic Caliphate minded Wahabi crazies, their command council is filled with former Baathist officers whose single purpose is to wipe out Iran’s influence in Iraq.

    So it is not clear to me that ISIS constitutes more a threat to Saudi oil fields than say they do to Shias and other minorities living in Syria and Iraq. Hypothetically if they succeeded in gaining control of Iraq then maybe Kuwait and Saudi Arabia could be threatened but till then they are a superb lever to be used against the Shias. That is why I seripusly doubt US seriousness is wanting to wipe out ISIS.

  225. BiBiJon says:

    The clash of chiefs
    =====================

    fyi says:
    September 12, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    Indeed.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2fu159/im_tim_arango_baghdad_bureau_chief_for_the_new/

    Tim Arango, Baghdad Bureau Chief for The New York Times:
    —————————————–

    “Everything that is occurring in Iraq today is related the American legacy there. The forerunner of ISIS was created to oppose the American occupation, and many of its leaders were in American detention facilities in Iraq. On the other side of the ledger, as it pertains to Iraqi politics, you see the American legacy. The U.S. basically chose Maliki, whose sectarian politics alienated many Sunnis, creating the fertile ground for ISIS to sweep in to these areas. And many of those Maliki policies that have pushed aside the Sunnis were started by the Americans. Excluding Sunnis from political life? that has its origins in the American De-Baathification policy. Maliki’s security policy of conducting mass arrests of Sunni men in the name of fighting terrorism? the U.S. did that too. So at every turn in the Iraq story now you see the American legacy at play.”

    THOMAS ERDBRINK, Tehran Bureau Chief for The New York Times:
    ———————————————-

    “the mysterious group, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, and how it came to be.
    And for most Iranians, the answer is obvious: the United States.”
    ;www.nytimes.com/2014/09/11/world/middleeast/isis-many-in-iran-believe-is-an-american-invention.html

    I am not without empathy. a) Thomas needs to prove he hasn’t gone native once in a while. b) What use is all those years of effort demonizing Iran, if you couldn’t then use “Iranians think….” as a way of manipulating the public to reject any bleeding obvious, right under your nose fact.

  226. Neil M says:

    James Canning says:
    September 12, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    (fyi,

    The sanctions against Iraq did not “cause” the 2003 US invasion of Iraq. Agreed?)

    That Saddam Hussein in effect concealed the fact he complied with the UN order for destruction of his WMD after the Gulf War surely was foolish.

    Nice try Mr Canning, but nothing could be farther from the truth.
    Saddam complied with all of the UN’s disarmament demands.
    When asked by the US to prove it, Iraq tabled a 10,000 page dossier of its entire disposal/destruction program. The moment it was tabled, John Negraponte (UN ‘Ambassador’ and arch-neocon) snatched it off the table and took it away to be selectively released piecemeal, and lied about, by the US.

    The fact that not one of the sock puppets in the UN had the gumption to disable him and return it to the table was the day, in my opinion, that the UN lost any and all of its remaining legitimacy and credibility as something other than a tool of the U.S.A. & Friends. The ‘Weapons Inspections’ fiasco was merely icing on the same cake.

  227. M.Ali says:

    “Inside The Chilling Online World Of The Women”

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/inside-the-online-world-of-the-women-of-isis

    What you should understand from this is the west’ inability to be a viable home for muslims, no matter what some thing. How come we don’t have Iranian 16 year old and 20 year old girls running away from home to join such groups? The Islamic Republic provides a legitimate avenue for Iranian muslims to feel at home and part of.

    This is important when it comes to Iranian discussion, not just for Iranians in and out of Iran, but for Muslims everywhere and for western analysts. Iran is the only muslim country that has found the best (compared to others, but could be better) balance between a religious government in line with people’s needs and requirements for surviving in a modern world. Turkey might be an interesting secular experiment, but its inability for being the ideal home to muslims will cause it problems as it moves on. Muslims are attracted to extremist movements from both secular (Turkey, UK, France, etc) to monarchist states (KSA, UAE, etc)

    Surrent ISIS are trying to create an inclusive Islamic government that is not secular or monarchist, but without Iran’s mature balance, they instead are creating a failed government like Taliban’s Afghanistan.

    Iran’s approach to Islam and its marriage with a republican system needs to be studied by muslims everywhere as the true future of an empowered Islamic state. Without a system like this, we will keep going around in circles, with groups like ISIS popping up, and secularists and modern muslims wondering, why?

  228. M.Ali says:

    I wonder if Khomeini being in the hospital has any effect on the timing of Obama’s declaration of bombing Syria.

  229. M.Ali says:

    “Turkey’s rate of murdered women skyrockets”

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/09/turkeywomenmurder.html

    “On May 3, a 26-year-old woman was beaten to death in broad daylight in Mugla province.”

    “On Sept. 9, a pregnant woman was brutally beaten on a busy Istanbul street and no one intervened.”

    “In 2010, the Ministry of Justice revealed the numbers on murdered women: From 2003 until 2010, there has been a 1,400% increase in the number of murdered women.”

    “No one can argue violence against women has become a norm in contemporary Turkey. These women are murdered by their male relatives, about 50% of the time by their husbands; the rest could be a former boyfriend, brother, father-in-law, father, son or even grandson.”

    But that’s okay. The important thing is that they can choose to wear a bikini on the beach, and that’s apparently ALL muslim women care about.

  230. M.Ali says:

    More proof of Muslims not being at home in their own countries.

    “ISIS Starts Recruiting in Istanbul’s Vulnerable Suburbs”

    http://www.newsweek.com/2014/09/19/exclusive-how-istanbul-became-recruiting-ground-islamic-state-269247.html

    “In her extended family alone, Deniz says, 15 people – including five children – have gone to live under Isis rule or fight in its ranks in recent months.”

    “One family, whose son joined Isis, says that he was among 19 young men from their neighbourhood alone who left for Syria recently, with at least four others planning to join them soon.”

    “In June, Turkey’s Milliyet newspaper reported that as many as 3,000 Turks have joined the group. ”

    “A member of parliament for an opposition party recently told a local newspaper that he believed 90 young men from another nearby town have made a similar journey in recent weeks. ”

    “After joining the local Isis sympathisers, Ahmet and his friends began to withdraw from their families. They stopped attending mosques, which in Turkey are run by government-appointed imams, whose sermons are approved by the state. He and his friends described them as münafik – a derogatory term referring to a debased or insincere form of Islam. ”

    Remember, Iranian muslims do not leave Iran for their country not satisfying their religious needs. Even minorities (aside from Bahais) don’t leave for religious reasons. People do leave, of course, but for economic reasons, for higher education, or maybe, for wanting to leave a more secular, non-religious life.

  231. Sammy says:

    Nice analysis by ‘malooga’ in MoA :

    Bloodletting Lady Europe

    “Only the United States and China will profit from it”

    Nobody will profit from this except perhaps several thousand top war profiteers, and a few military careerists, and EU and NATO flunkies. The US is rapidly destroying whatever precious credibility it has left before the now almost incredulous and horrified world stage, and money coming in from other nation’s lost business is but a trickle in an austere bucket full of holes. What China gains in time and influence, it loses in business with the US. China badly wants stability to grow, and so will continue to throw away its hard earned cash, buying worthless US t-notes to ensure it.

    “If the Empire will just dissolve gracefully, we will do everything possible to aid it.” This is what other countries are thinking, even as they come to understand that hope is not a policy. “Disarming” must become more than a party compliment; it must grow into a real and hard strategy, if it is to succeed and save the world.

    But that is not what is happening — the Empire, a wild bloodied beast, refuses to go gracefully. Rather, the Empire has been panicked into the desperate rear-guard action of a final play to regain its lost hegemony (which, by its very nature is a zero sum game), upon the surface of what is now a slowly deflating global balloon. Should the balloon deflate before a winner is declared, all will lose.

    Several week ago, I detailed Merkel’s bloody body being impaled upon the ideological fence she was attempting to straddle. It seems NATO has finally mercilessly pulled her off and onto their side, in the nick of time, while there is still some life left in her much diminished political figure. Germany will lie with the devil for now.

    European agriculture is dead — planting decisions will have to be made in just five months time. They will have no export markets for a second year in a row. Concerns will merge and eventually be bought off by big agribusiness and GMO firms for pennies on the dollar. Hurray Syngenta! With no real home market to protect, ironically, subsidies to giant agribusiness will increase, as in the US.

    And Toivo, yes, while I admire your honesty, you should realize by now that everyone is bought off. Everyone with real power, at least. Everyone to the last soul — if they still have one, that is. If they refuse the blandishments of their betters, they are simply disappeared, as Denk details, or if they are lucky, only McKinney’ed. Buying off the entire political class of Europe could cost what, several billion a year in newly printed fiat dollars? (10,000 people x $1M/yr. = 10 B/yr., or 100,000 people x $100k/yr., or even more for far less, all = 10 B/yr.) The Empire doesn’t even blink at spending several hundred billion a year on prosecuting hot wars; so why should it leave anything to chance? With literally trillions in drug money (remember the first act after 9-11 was cornering the opium/heroin market in Afghanistan and then growing it exponentially, while protecting it with US forces), stolen money, QE money, arbitrage money, derivatives money, and all manner of funny money sloshing around in the pockets of those who own the world, why would they not own the one thing that is important, namely, power? The same logic goes for the media. True resistance only lies with the general population, which has been systematically ripped off to pay off those corrupted at the top. But we can keep waiting for the next glam/glib politician to save us if we insist on believing that hope is a pro-active policy, even after have been fleeced by the flim-flam man, Barak Obama.

    Democracy, if she ever existed as more than a reified aspirational meme, intended to stand lithe and seductively clad in our imaginations beside her hallowed companion muses: Kalliope, Kleio, Thaleia, and Melpomene in flowing gowns of grace, has now become commoditized into another grungy, soul-less, chthonic, profit-making industry. Money is to be donated, ads are to be run, products pushed and sold, and everything, from beliefs in hope and change, to campaign hot dogs are to be consumed until sickness overtakes satiety and good sense.

    If there are any Gods left to us after our modern day Demiurges have worked their monetary magic upon the power aspiring class, it is the rare soul who refuses to stay bought and silenced; the puppet who like Shakespeare’s jester-fool, against all odds, manages to talk sense to the senseless; or the proud and incorruptible general who stays loyal to his unbuyable leader, Assad. These, it should be obvious, are as rare and valuable as live oysters after the Deepwater Horizon spill.

    It should be obvious by now that NATO and the banks function as one overweening hegemonic totalitarian force. Think tanks, too — thus the formulation “Banks ‘n Tanks.” The propaganda system is like the emperor’s resplendent robes. (And only very few of us have the power to see through them.) Large traditional manufacturers, who once had some say, are now just the banker’s bitches. Much new technology, like cell phones, is ideological in nature, and hence, just a physical subset of the propaganda system. Only the energy giants have the capital, reach, power and vision to defy their governments.

    Yet, much is going on deep below the surface, which we can’t see. There is a conflict of unprecedented dimensions raging among the elite in Europe. Atlanticists are fighting with Eurasianists for supremacy. The intellectual class is split. There are some small splits within the media. Those with the power of vision in Europe know that the old order is dying, and that the sooner they jump on the bus of the new order, the better they will be.

    If there still exists a productive ownership class (a nationalist bourgeoisie) separate from the globalist finance class on top, then it must choose to go against its instincts and, to survive, ally with the working class to throw off their controllers — otherwise there is no hope. The finance class is not interested in pan-Asiatic railroads they cannot finance and control, but Germany’s tool manufacturing industry should be. The nationalist elements within the military (the power behind Chavez’s unlikely rise, for instance) must be persuaded to break with their NATO trainers and paymasters.

    But those are the elements which must unite to avert a World War: Nationalist and Eurasian elements of the bourgeoisie, big energy, the media, and the military, along with anti-austerity populist movements. Those are the configurations we should be supporting in a move towards a poly-centric world.

    Then, and only then, is real change is possible. Populist movements alone are not strong enough these days. Their power, when threatening, is too easily sidetracked into schismatic identity movements, like Scottish independence, which refuse to address change of alignment as a core value. One might as well change ponies on a merry-go-round.

    At the present, the NATO Atlanticists hold sway, while the other factions sit on the fence and watch. Are the Atlanticists being given enough rope to hang themselves? Must they prove their dominion in battle? There is always the problem of the battle escalating beyond control, perhaps due to an unexpected coup. Do the Eurasianists hold an unexpected trump card up their sleeve? And whom does Father Time favor?

    As the snows of winter approach, Lady Europe lies helplessly passive to her fate — almost somnolent, like a medieval patient upon the pure white sheets of her destiny. She is in that initial state that the poet Syvia Plath once described as “Stasis in darkness.” The cure of blood-letting has been prescribed by Dr. NATO, and the Nazi-bred leeches of war and austerity are to be affixed and stuck hard to her body. They will not be removed until complete submission is achieved. Are the Atlanticists monitoring the blood loss? Do they even care if the patient survives? After all, they have been planning to consume the remains regardless of what happens to the patient.

    Is there any chance for the patient to miraculously come to her senses, and throw off those sucking the very blood out of her? Can she then escape from the sexual predations of the evil Dr. NATO? Could she then still have the energy to find the presence of mind within her, and run headlong into the warm awaiting arms of her betrothed (in a union foretold by propinquity), virile Asia — in what promises to be a glorious marriage?

    Ah, well, there is a true romantic in all of us geomancers, I guess.

    Posted by: Malooga | Sep 12, 2014 5:18:44 AM | 70

  232. M.Ali says:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/09/11/is-obama-bomb/15463535/

    Look at this comment in article on Syria,

    “That comparison applies in Iraq where competent indigenous commandos and Kurdish peshmerga fighters can take advantage of bombing runs, said Michael O’Hanlon, a military analyst at the Brookings Institution. In Syria, it will take time to train and work with reliable allies.

    “We don’t have that now in Syria,” O’Hanlon said. “So this model works for Iraq soon, but not for Syria until 2015, 2016.”

    So what is happening in 2015 and 2016? Is that when US thinks they will overthrow Assad, install a puppet government, and then have an ally in Syria?

  233. Khomeini says:

    M.Ali says:
    September 13, 2014 at 1:25 am

    I wonder if Khomeini being in the hospital has any effect on the timing of Obama’s declaration of bombing Syria.

    I think you mean “Khamenei” not “Khomeini” – The latter passed way long time ago. Ha, ha, ha….It must be a typing error.

  234. Khomeini says:

    As I mentioned in my post Khomeini says: September 11, 2014 at 6:19 am

    As for Iran’s Zarif and co, these lot will do anything in the hope of gaining American love. I bet Zarif and co and telling US “listen darling, if you agree to fall in love with Iran we will help you bomb Syria”. It happened before – remember Khatami government’s active help for US invasion of Afghanistan!!! But alas, as soon as US invaded Afghanistan Iran was included in “Axis of Evil” !!! Same is about to happen in case of Syria. As soon as US destroys Syrian Army, if it can that is, US will back off from any promises made to Zarif and co.

    Now there is proof that Rafsanjani, Zarif and co are indeed back to their old tactics – do anything just to get US love and affection.(http://www.hashemirafsanjani.ir/content/%D8%A2%D9%85%D8%B1%DB%8C%DA%A9%D8%A7-%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%AA-%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%8C-%D9%87%D9%85%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C-%D9%85%DB%8C-%DA%A9%D9%86%DB%8C%D9%85)

    On the other hand conservative are seeing things with an open eye. (”http://javanonline.ir/fa/news/672385/%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%AA%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%81-%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%B4-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%87-%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%B4“)

    Those of you who wants to read all this in English look here (“http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/09/iran-rejects-us-is-coalition.html”)

  235. Khomeini says:

    Obama: Assad “protected” Christians in Syria

    http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/obama-assad-protected-christians-syria

    What??? !!!! Why is US against Assad than? Why is US arming “moderate” terrorists?

  236. fyi says:

    Khomeini says:

    September 13, 2014 at 8:05 am

    The key statement of Mr. Rafsanjani, in my view, was this:

    “We will do our thing and go our own way.”

  237. Rehmat says:

    In 2010, Jew Senator Joe Lieberman had predicted that America’s future war will be in Yemen. Lieberman was indirectly stating the strategic importance of Yemen for the Zionist entity. Yemen’s coastal Red Sea (which leads to Suez Cannal, Mediterranean and Dead Sea) is the only international water-way which links the Zionist entity with the outside world.

    It seems, Iran’s political support for the Shia-majority Houthi resistance against the US, Israel and Saudi Arabia ‘Axis of Evil’ has started showing good results.

    Viktor Titov PhD, a Russian geopolitical expert on Middle East affairs wrote on September 12, 2014: “If (Yemen’s) president and the prime minister do not rally their efforts, then the Houthis will get an easy victory without massive use of force or even efforts. This will result in creation of a pro-Iran Shia Islamic state in the north, which in turn force southerners to separate and create their own country and that is nothing less than a total rebalance of powers in the region

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/09/13/irans-political-strategy-is-winning-in-yemen/

  238. kooshy says:

    Mr. Kerry said he opposed including Iran. Mr. Kerry, who noted that the French had not consulted with him on the question.

    “Iran has been deeply involved with its forces on the ground in Syria,” Mr. Kerry said. He also called Iran a “state sponsor of terror in various places.”

    Well, for obvious reasons Mr. Kerry and his European clients may prefer not to acknowledge, but factually he knows the whole world including many Americans believe that US and her EU clients not only are and have been “state sponsors of terrorism on global level” but unfortunate for the global community, to protect their diminishing hegemonic interests around the world, for some time now they have chosen and have actively become “State Creators of Terrorism” as is admitted and evidenced by their sponsorship of Taliban and Sandinista in 80’s, and ISIL, ISIS, DAESH, and various other terror group created and founded by their master terror organizations like the secret services of CIA and MI6. As matter of fact Mr. Kerry and every leader of US since Regan should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
    Till then the least we can do is write and say the truth about American terrorism in the world, god willing the US empire of terror will fall soon too.

  239. fyi says:

    Neil M says:

    September 12, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    The Danish Foreign Minister Martin Lidegaard was in Tehran, immediately following the NATO Summit, to get Iran to join the anti-ISIS coalition.

    He then flew to Saudi Arabia.

    [I suppose the assumption was that Iran is now weak and ready to surrender at the nuclear talks and additionally supplicant and grateful – like e beaten dog – to be re-admitted into the presence of the Master.]

    Iranians stated their condition: “US demonstrating sincerity” – which is the Iranian code word for Strategic settlement.

    The answer came today – from US via Mr. Kerry – that Iran does not belong in the anti-ISIS coalition (however nebulous and unworkable that collation is).

    And Iranians responded in kind; Both Mr. Larijani and Mr. Shamkhani warning US against military strikes in Syria.

    US proposes to fight ISIS without Iran and without Turkey – let her and EU states do so; Christians fighting Muslims – it is good for the Shia Crescent.

  240. fyi says:

    Nasser says:

    September 12, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    Iran and Syria may try to make a 10-year long, or 20-year long cease-fire (hudna) with ISIS.

    In this scenario, Iran and Syria will cease operations against ISIS in her current territories; ISIS will refrain from attacking areas controlled by Iraqi Government and by the Syrian Government.

    ISIS can then have the breathing time to consolidate its hold and hopefully march against Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

    Alternatively, ISIS could become another functioning state – like Taliban’s Afghanistan – demonstrating the unworkability of a Sharia-based dispensation to everyone – including those Iranian admirers of Taliban (before their demise).

    In this manner, the Shia Crescent would also avoid waging war – for at least a decade – against Sunni Muslims and rebuild and prepare for the later wars.

  241. Kathleen says:

    Today on Steve Kornacki’s MSNBC’s Up program he had former Security Advisors Stephen Hadley and Sandy Berger on to discuss ISIS and what should be done. Why is it that so many Iraq war pushers who were so deadly and I believe willfully wrong about Iraq….. continue to be recycled? Hadley who put in the false and deadly words into Bush Cincinnati Iraq speech (I was in the streets of Cinci protesting against the push for the invasion with thousands of others) and Hadley along with Condi “mushroom cloud” Rice who ignored the numerous efforts by counterterrorism expert Richard Clarke’s to inform them about the threat that Al Qeada posed long before 9/11. Berger who stole classified documents in 2004 and gave up his license law to cut off a further investigation of this theft and withheld information from Clinton about China’s access to U.S. nuclear warhead intelligence provided by Israel to China. Why is it people like Kornacki give these deadly wrong and criminal individuals air time. Why ask these war thugs what they think? Why not have the Leverett’s on his program? Or Dr. Zbigniew Bryzinski? Colonel Wilkerson who has admitted how terribly wrong he was. Kornacki did have Congressman McDermott on who talked sense and facts but why not have other quest on who stood against the invasion of Iraq and other serious mistakes in the middle east? Why recycle those who were so deadly wrong?

  242. Jay says:

    kooshy says:
    September 13, 2014 at 11:01 am

    This is the best outcome for Iran – not to be included in the coalition of failure!

    Mr. Kerry is trying to extract concessions from Iran and his booby prize is the acknowledgement of Iran’s role. Really! As if Mr. Kerry saying “Egypt has a major role” amounts to a hill of beans.

    Let the West continue to destroy themselves by recycling the same failed logic that got them into the mess to begin with. Iran should not fall for this trap. ISIS can be managed in so far as Iran is concerned.

  243. James Canning says:

    Great post, Kathleen. You might also have noted that Condoleezza Rice was a willing dupe of Israel, in giving Israel what was tantamount to a green light for building the Apartheid Wall hither and thither all over the West Bank.

  244. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Your notion that pressure is on Iran to “surrender” is nonsense. In my view.

  245. James Canning says:

    Khomeini,

    For years now, Christian leaders in Syria have said their security was better under the Assad government than it would be in a “democracy”. Comments of this sort tended not to be given much attention in American newspapers.

  246. Nasser says:

    fyi says: September 13, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    I feel that at this moment their animosity and hatred towards Shias to be too great for a hudna to be accepted.

    We can however hope that the US and her allies does their part in killing and maiming enough for them to say “Shias are worse than the Jews. But those Americans and GCC lot are even worse! They egged us on against Assad at first and then betrayed us.” White Christians butchering Sunni Muslims is indeed good for the Shia Crescent.

    Then maybe a hudna could be accepted (provided of course that Iranian planners have the strategic vision for this).

    And that would result in what I have originally proposed. Iran and the Shias would get the useful parts of Iraq and Syria with the Sunni crazies being left with the barren deserts of those two states. Such an entity would be too resource poor to be economically viable and can’t help but turn into a threat for Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Ameen.

  247. James Canning says:

    Neil M,

    Yes, Saddam Hussein DESTROYED MOST OF IRAQ’S WMD IN 1991. I have made this point many, many times.

    The question I in effect raised, was: WHY DID SADDAM KEEP QUIET ABOUT THIS? In 1991. And in 1992. 1993. Etc etc etc.

  248. Nasser says:

    fyi,

    I disagree with you on Turkey. Turkey is an enthusiastic supporter of ISIS. So much so that even the US couldn’t convince them to dump “those allies.” The similarities with Pakistan and Taliban is striking.

  249. James Canning says:

    BiBiJon,

    Would Maliki have become PM of Iraq, if Iran had opposed it?

  250. James Canning says:

    Neil M,

    I assume you agree with me that Saddam Hussein in effect concealed from the outside world, for many years, the fact he had destroyed most of Iraq’s WMD in 1991.

  251. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    According to Philip Giraldi, who knows many US intelligence officials, no American intelligence official thinks the overthrow of Assad would lead to anything other than greater chaos.

    There do seem to be some Sunnis in Saudi Arabia and Iraq, and other places, who think Isis is a way to pressure Shias in Iraq to put together a government that shares power (and wealth etc etc) with the Sunnis.

    As you know, and as the Iranian analysts know, the US has tried and is trying to shore up the Shia-controlled government of Iraq.

    The contention the US “created” Isis and thought it could “control” Isis is fantasy.

  252. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    The Sunni dictatorship in Iraq emerged at a time when weapons etc etc were not readily available to the Shia majority. Now, putting a Sunni dictatorship back in power in Baghdad is effectively impossible. The same “principle” applies in Bahrain.

  253. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 13, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Very plainly:

    There is no state between Hindu Kush and the Mediterranean Sea except Islamic republic of Iran.

    P5+1 and Axis Powers again are willfully ignoring this salient strategic fact and pursuing such fantasies as “Iran Surrender” or “Iranian Containment”.

    It is, of course, their choice.

    Iran played this game in Lebanon and in Afghanistan and under much more sever conditions succeeded in snatching victory out of the jaws of defeat – over a 20-year period.

    The US war against ISIS is sham – as Mr. Nasser has observed above.

    That fantasy is discussed here:

    http://csis.org/publication/war-isil-high-risk-endeavor

    Iranians are going to go their own way; an be not surprised if US planes are shot down over Syria and US is sucked into another quagmire….

  254. fyi says:

    Nasser says:

    September 13, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    Yes, that seems to be the case; unfortunately.

    And you are right;

    Pakistan is nuclear-armed and supports Sunni extremists in Afghanistan – against Iranian interests and Shia Muslims.

    Turkey is a member of a nuclear-armed military alliance is supporting Sunni extremists in Syria and in Iraq against Iranian and Shia interests.

    Before long, I should think, Mr. Khamenei may drink from the chalice of poison and order nuclearization of Iran.

  255. fyi says:

    Nasser says:

    September 13, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    US has no allies in fight against ISIS.

    So there is only so much that she could do.

    This is a sham campaign, US will drop bombs on ISIS when they cross a certain line on a map – say getting too close to KRG areas in Iraq.

    But ISIS cannot be destroyed from the air – and they know it.

    And why would Sunni Arabs fight against ISIS?

    Mr. Obama likely will go through this sham war until his term expires and the next US president will decide what to do.

  256. fyi says:

    Kathleen says:

    September 13, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    Middle America hates Islam and specially hates Iran.

    And Middle America still thinks of itself as the Exceptional White People who extracted civilization out of the wilderness.

    Their self-image prevents them from comprehension – the new channels feed them what they want to hear.

  257. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 13, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Good, so now you must understand that there is no alternative for US but to take the side of Shia in Iraq and elsewhere.

    That is, US has to jettison any and all Sunni Muslim governments that are supporters of ISIS: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and solidly align herself with Iran and Syria.

    US cannot try to play in neutral grounds; such grounds do not exist; Egypt now is carrying out a brutal campaign of killing and imprisoning of Muslim Brotherhood as well as other Islamic political parties and organizations.

    Not that I expect Axis Powers to change course.

  258. fyi says:

    All:

    Mr. Buchannan on ISIS, US etc.

    http://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2014/09/11/the-forever-war/

    Another day in the Halls of the Mad King…

  259. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    The Muslim Brotherhood support the overthrow of the Syrian government.

  260. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    If Iran makes a deal with P5+1, it can grow rapidly in wealth and power. Making a deal has nothing to do with “surrender”.

  261. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 13, 2014 at 4:25 pm

    Well there won’t be a deal…

  262. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    So, Iran should choose to continue hampered by sanctions. In your view.

  263. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    September 13, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    There is no other way for a country at war such as Iran….

  264. Sineva says:

    Nasser says:
    September 13, 2014 at 1:56 pm
    Agreed,the sunnis stand to be the big losers…again

    James Canning says:
    September 13, 2014 at 4:58 pm
    It was the west who chose to sanction iran,iran didnt sanction itself nor does it “choose” to be sanctioned,rather the price the west demands to remove sanctions in typical blackmailer fashion is simply to high

  265. James Canning says:

    Sineva,

    P5+1 will accept a limited Iranian nuclear programme, including, in my view, the ability to enrich sufficient nuclear fuel to supply Iran’s own nuclear power plants. Where is the “blacckmail” you claim to see?

  266. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    You are encouraging Iran to make sure it has less power and wealth available, to secure the best interests of the people of Iran.