Obama at West Point: Doubling Down on a Failed Syria Policy

In the wake of President Obama’s West Point commencement address yesterday, The National Interest has published our latest piece, “A Middle East Tragedy:  Obama’s Syria Policy Disaster,” assessing the strategic and moral bankruptcy of what passes for the Obama administration’s Syria policy.  To read the piece online, click here; we’ve also appended the text below.  As always, we encourage readers to post comments, Facebook likes, etc. both on this site and on The National Interest Web site.

A Middle East Tragedy:  Obama’s Syria Policy Disaster 

For over three years, the United States has sought to overthrow Syrian President Bashar al-Assad by supporting an Al Qaeda-infused opposition that Washington either knew or should have known would fail.  Yet, in his commencement address at West Point on Wednesday, President Obama promised the American people and the rest of the world more of the same.

Obama’s vague pledge to “ramp up” support for selected oppositionists is a craven sop to those claiming that U.S. backing for the opposition so far—nonlethal aid, training opposition fighters, coordination with other countries openly providing lethal aid, and high-level political backing (including three years of public demands from Obama that Assad “must go”)—has been inadequate, and that Assad could be removed if only America would do more.  This claim should be decisively rejected as a basis for policy making, rather than disingenuously humored, for it is dangerously detached from reality.

From the start of the conflict, it has been clear that the constituencies supporting Assad and his government—including not just Christians and non-Sunni Muslims but also non-Islamist Sunnis—add up to well over half of Syrian society.  These constituencies believe (for compelling historical reasons) that the alternative to Assad’s regime will not be anything approximating a secular, liberal democracy; it will be some version of Sunni Islamist rule.  As a result, since the start of the conflict in March 2011, polling dataparticipation in the February 2012 referendum on a new constitution, participation in May 2012 parliamentary elections, and other evidence have consistently shown a majority of Syrians continuing to back Assad.

Conversely, there is no polling or other evidence suggesting that anywhere close to a majority of Syrians wants Assad replaced by some part of the opposition.  Indeed, the opposition’s popularity appears to be declining as oppositionists become ever more deeply divided and ever more dominated inside Syria by Al Qaeda-like jihadis.  Just last year, NATO estimated that popular support for the opposition may have shrunk to as low as 10 percent of the Syrian public.

These readily observable realities notwithstanding, the Obama administration, most of America’s political class, and the mainstream media all jumped on, and have stayed with, a fantastical narrative about cadres of Syrian democrats ready, if just given the tools, to take down a brutal dictator lacking any vestige of legitimacy.  The administration, for its part, embraced this narrative largely because it desperately wanted to undermine Iran’s regional position by destabilizing Assad and his government.  In 2012, Obama compounded his fatally flawed choice by setting his infamous “redline” regarding chemical-weapons use in Syria—ignoring the potentially catastrophic risk that this would incentivize rebels to launch “false flag” chemical attacks, precisely to elicit U.S. strikes against the Syrian military.

The consequences of crafting policy on the basis of such a surreal distortion of political reality in Syria and of strategic reality across the Middle East have, not surprisingly, been dismal.

Given that the popular base for opposition to Assad is too small to sustain a campaign that might actually bring down his government, it was utterly predictable that external support for armed oppositionists could only translate into death and existential distress for Syrians.  Over 150,000 have been killed so far in fighting between opposition and government forces, with millions more displaced.  How many more Syrians need to die before Washington rethinks its policy?

Supporting an armed challenge to Assad was also bound to invigorate Al Qaeda and dramatically escalate sectarian violence.  Well before March 2011, it was evident that, among Syria’s Sunni Islamist constituencies, the Muslim Brotherhood—whose Syrian branch was historically more radical and violent than most Brotherhood elements—was being displaced by more extreme, Al Qaeda-like groups.  External support for anti-Assad forces after March 2011 both accelerated this trend and reinforced it with an infusion of foreign jihadis at least partially financed by Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Arab American allies.  The U.S. Intelligence Community estimates that 26,000 “extremists” are now fighting in Syria, more than 7,000 from outside the country.  U.S. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper warns that many of these militants want not just to bring down Assad; they are preparing to attack Western interests—including the American homeland—directly.  It is hard to imagine a more dysfunctional outcome for U.S. interests.

Likewise, picking the losing side in Syria’s externally-fueled civil war has further eroded American standing and influence in the Middle East and globally.  Most notably, Washington’s Syria policy has contributed substantially to the ongoing polarization of Western relations with Russia and China.  In particular, the Obama administration’s declared determination to oust Assad has prompted much closer Sino-Russian cooperation to thwart what both Moscow and Beijing see as an ongoing campaign to usurp the Middle East’s balance of power by overthrowing regional governments unwilling to subordinate their foreign policies to Washington’s preferences.  This collaboration, in turn, has helped to bring Russia and China into broader geopolitical alignment, deliberately working to turn a post–Cold War world defined by overwhelming U.S. hegemony into a more genuinely multipolar order—the opposite of what U.S. policy should be trying to achieve.

The Syrian conflict will end in one of two ways.  In one scenario, the Assad government continues to extend and consolidate its military gains against opposition forces.  Over time, opposition elements make their peace with the government, in piecemeal fashion.  However, because of ongoing external support, enough opposition groups are able to keep fighting that significant portions of Syria’s population will continue to face serious humanitarian and security challenges for several more years.  In the alternative scenario, the main external supporters of the opposition (the United States, Britain and France, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Arab states, Turkey) and of the Assad government (Russia, China, Iran) pursue serious diplomacy aimed at helping the government and those opposition elements with some measure of genuine support in Syria reach a political settlement based on power sharing.

The current trajectory of U.S. policy makes the first scenario—with the unnecessary deaths of more Syrians, further revitalization of Al Qaeda, and continued erosion of America’s strategic position—virtually inevitable.  The second scenario happens to be favored by Russia, China, Iran, and even the Assad government; it is also, far and away, the morally and strategically preferable scenario as far as America’s real, long-term interests are concerned.  But shifting from the first scenario to the second will require fundamental changes in America’s Syria policy.

Above all, U.S. officials need to recognize—and to act as if they recognize—that serious diplomacy means engagement with all relevant parties (even those Washington does not like), with such engagement informed by an accurate understanding of on-the-ground reality (rather than wishful thinking).  For Syria, this means acknowledging that resolving the conflict there will require the United States to come to terms with a Syrian government still headed by President Bashar al-Assad.

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157 Responses to “Obama at West Point: Doubling Down on a Failed Syria Policy”

  1. Rehmat says:

    It’s the pro-Israel Congress and Senate and not Obama or the US military which are interested in a regime change in Damascus.

    In September 2013, American Jewish writer and author, Max Blumenthal, claimed that Israel is driving United States to war in Syria – as first step to war with Iran in future.

    Three year ago, peaceful protestors demanded liberalization of the Ba’athist regime in Damascus. The US and Israel saw it a window to opportunity they had been waiting for decades to destroy another Arab state which could pose a future threat to the Zionist entity. But instead, as happened after 10-year occupation of Iraq – Syria, once an independent secularist state, has now become Iran’s client state.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/05/23/syria-and-the-western-democrazy/

  2. Jay says:

    James,

    I take it that you support UK’s high unemployment rate and increased prostitution rate. Your thoughts?

  3. kooshy says:

    سید محمد مرندی:توافق ژنو نه ترکمنچای است نه توافق قرن/باید برای مذاکرات طولانی مدت خود را آماده کنیم

    http://www.khabaronline.ir/detail/357414/Politics/diplomacy

  4. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    masooud-jan,

    Supreme Leader’s Speech in Meeting with Members of Majlis

    http://english.khamenei.ir//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1915&Itemid=4

    “The satanic forces of the world are after destroying any place, any human base and any human civilization that does not render services to them. They are after this. As you can see, everyone should be at their service. Everyone should listen to and give in to their bullying statements and violent roar. Otherwise, they confront and fight with you. We should strengthen ourselves and stand firm in the face of these forces. This is the basis of our work. You in the legislative branch, government organizations in charge of executive work and different officials in their different sectors and responsibilities should pay attention to this. This is what we want to say. The main task that the Majlis should do is to continue the fight which led to the victory and survival of the Revolution.

    Now, how long will this fighting take? In one sense, this fighting and this jihad is endless because shaitan is always there in the world. And in one sense, the form of jihad changes in different situations. If certain countries and peoples manage to liberate the human and global community from the malevolence of colonialism and arrogance, the problem will be solved. This is the main part of humanity’s problem.

    Today, arrogant regimes – headed by America – have possessed humanity’s body and mind like an evil spirit. They are haunting it and making life difficult for it. If humanity manages to liberate itself from this evil spirit and this nightmare, then it will breathe easily. Of course, it is not easy to do this. It is a difficult task and it requires an extensive and long-term fight. The people of Iran have taken lofty steps. The very task of forming the Islamic Republic was the loftiest step. The formation of the Majlis, which is the manifestation of Islamic democracy, is the greatest feat. The very essence of your position and your presence as the people’s representatives and as the manifestation of religious democracy is a kind of fighting. This should be appreciated and developed.”

  5. nico says:

    Obama and the US polities are a joke.
    Non-sensical policies from head to toe.

    Syria became an Iranian client state as Irak did previously and as Afghanistan will in the coming years.

    Keep antagonizing Russia and China will deepen the Eurasiatic alliance with Iran.

    And now you have the European Union at the brink of political collapse.

    Pathetic.

    But the idiots in the USG will not stop until the country hit the wall while speeding up.

  6. nico says:

    What a bunch of losers

  7. nico says:

    While the far right (meaning against the US led globalization and their EU globalized avatar) has become the biggest political party in France.

    “Far-Right National Front Wins European Vote In France: Exit Polls”
    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5389672

    You have those global kleptokrat still trying the irritating the people more yet !

    “US ‘seeks to fine BNP Paribas more than $10bn”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/10863903/US-seeks-to-fine-BNP-Paribas-more-than-10bn.html

    Not that the BNP banksters need to be pitied upon.
    But you have the other Hollander idiot saying that it is only legal matter not political to be meddled with.
    What a goofy.

    And the US degenerate policy in full display spinning arround without control.

    Pathetic.

  8. nico says:

    While the far right (meaning against the US led globalization and their EU globalized avatar) has become the biggest political party in France.

    “Far-Right National Front Wins European Vote In France: Exit Polls”
    _http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5389672

    You have those global kleptokrat still trying the irritating the people more yet !“US ‘seeks to fine BNP Paribas more than $10bn”
    _http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/10863903/US-seeks-to-fine-BNP-Paribas-more-than-10bn.html

    Not that the BNP banksters need to be pitied upon.
    But you have the other Hollander idiot saying that it is only legal matter not political to be meddled with.
    What a goofy.

    And the US degenerate policy in full display spinning arround without control.

    Pathetic.

  9. Rehmat says:

    In order to block the so-called “two-state” solution further, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu decided to apply the seven-decades-old mantra: “Palestine for the (Zionist) Jewish people”.

    Earlier this month, Netanyahu during a speech he delivered at his ruling Likud party’s Yaakov Vider (religious branch) said that Talmud should become the Constitution of the State. He proposed to adopt Hebrew calendar (based on Moon-sighting like the Islamic calendar), and the Jewish Shari’ah (Gemara and Minsha), which is totally barbaric when it comes to women’s rights.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/05/30/bibi-talmud-will-block-the-palestinian-state/

  10. Rehmat says:

    @nico

    The NF, BNP and UKIP have many things in common in addition to their racism against non-White immigrants especially Muslims – all three support Israel against Iran.

    Recently, the UKIP has been under huge scrutiny over Islamophobic, racist, sexist and homophobic comments made by its leaders including the party leader Nigel Farage, who has earned the title of “a good friend of Israel” from the UK’s Zionist media.

    UKIP’s 161-seat victory in Thursday EU election is Netanyahu’s fourth foreign election victory; anti-Muslim, pro-Israel Narendra Modi as new prime minister of India, Jewish Oligarch Petro Poroshenko as the new president of Ukraine, and Gen. al-Sisi, a Crypto Jew who just declared himself the newly “elected” president of Egypt.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/05/30/pro-israel-ukip-gains-in-the-eu-election/

  11. James Canning says:

    I think Obama now sees US military intervention in LIbya as having helped to produce chaos in that country. Nicolas Sarkozy took France into that intervention, in no small part due to loud noises from his friend Bernard-Henri Levy (who wass in Benghazi with the rebels).

  12. James Canning says:

    I think John Mearsheimer is correct when he says he is “95% sure” Obama thinks that drawing a “red line” in Syria was a mistake.

  13. James Canning says:

    Jay,

    Including the “underground economy” in economic figures is in my view a good thing for any country, including the UK.

    The recent economic trend in Britain in fact is favourable.

  14. nico says:

    Rehmat,

    Do you think Putin loves muslims ?
    Do you think Xi loves mulsims ?
    Do you think Obama, Hollander or Comeron love muslims ?

    Who is supporter of human rights ?
    Who is supporter of Israel (say eternally and unconditionally…) ?
    Who is supporter of democracy ?
    Who is supporter of human dignity ?
    Who is about the one world order and who is for multilateralism ?

    What are those leaders deeds and those of their regimes in the post quarter century ?

    Is Iran a theocracy run by mullahs ?
    If yes, so what ?

    Please Rehmat spare me your categories and MSM cooked and ready for consumption thinking.

  15. nico says:

    James Canning says:
    May 30, 2014 at 1:48 pm

    “I think Obama now sees US military intervention in LIbya as having helped to produce chaos in that country.”

    Do you mean like in Iraq or Afghanistan ?
    Who do you want to make believe that Obama did not know the consequences ?
    Your point as usual is laughable.

  16. Jay says:

    James Canning says:
    May 30, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    Do I take it that in your view prostitution is a harmless form of commerce?

  17. BiBiJon says:

    James Canning says:
    May 30, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    Indeed, according to Financial Times, “Britain is currently one of the most egalitarian countries in history in terms of wealth distribution.”

    Quite an an achievement by FT, James. I would keep things the way they are.

  18. nico says:

    BiBiJon says:
    May 30, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Surely France main government political parties feel the heat of the far right grilling their ass.
    I suspect the fine will not be paid as it will be politically unacceptable in the current context.

  19. James Canning says:

    BiBiJon,

    A very large number of billionaires from Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Nigeria, and the Gulf live in London. Is this part of your calculation of disparity of wealth in the UK?

  20. James Canning says:

    BiBiJon,

    The fantastic increase in property prices in the UK over the past four decades owes a great deal to in-migration of very rich foreigners. I assume you see this as serious problem. What would be your proposed remedy?

  21. James Canning says:

    Jay,

    A great deal of crime tends to be associated with prostitution. Other problems also obtain. What to do about it?

    Good economic record-keeping for a country does not mean illegal drugs should be encouraged. Or prostitution, for that matter.

  22. fyi says:

    Rehmat says:

    May 30, 2014 at 9:49 am

    Americans, acting as Israel’s lawyers, killed the 2-state solution.

    The day that they killed it was on that day during signing ceremony on the lawn of the White House.

    Now, of course, some of the realize what they have wrought and wish to bring the conflict to an end.

    They no longer can.

  23. Jay says:

    James Canning says:
    May 30, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    So why do you think this “most egalitarian” society in terms of wealth distribution has an increasing rate of prostitution?

  24. humanist says:

    In my view the following Haaretz arctic by Shemuel Meir can critically alter the
    Israeli political atmosphere around the Iranian nuclear threat.

    The article is mainly about an interview with Gareth Porter on his recent historical book entitled Manufactured Crisis, the Untold Story of Iranian Nuclear Scare.

    Gareth’s replies to Meir’s question are forcefully decisive showing he has no doubt at all on the validity of his assertions.

    A further hard blow to the false and evil narratives of the warmongers? Maybe it is much more than that.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.596104

  25. BiBiJon says:

    James,

    I forgot the link.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/upshot/thomas-piketty-responds-to-criticism-of-his-data.html?_r=0

    Whatever the reasons, whether Sloan Square is teaming with rich foreigners, or property speculation, or whatever. FT has figured out income distribution in UK is the best there has ever been in any country in history.

  26. Jay says:

    BiBiJon says:
    May 30, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    Well! First they tried: “communist”! Didn’t work. Then they tried: “nothing new here”! Didn’t work.

    So, back to the tried and true – let’s muddy up the waters! So, FT hires a couple of hacks.

    As Piketty acknowledges, there are methodological choices but the results stand! That is a problem for the 1%. Selling UK as the most egalitarian society is just not going to fly.

  27. BiBiJon says:

    Jay says:
    May 30, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Yes, FT makes Enron’s CFO proud when it comes to pulling numbers out of thin air.

  28. Kathleen says:

    Who are the culprits who have been driving the Obama Syrian policy? So many more Syrian’s would be alive today if the Obama administration had listened to the Leverett’s and other level headed analyst who have been pushing the idea of a “political settlement based on power sharing”

  29. BiBiJon says:

    Pepe said it first:

    “The now symbiotic China-Russia strategic alliance – with the possibility of extending towards Iran [7] – is the fundamental fact on the ground in the young 21st century. It will extrapolate across the BRICS, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Collective Security Treaty Organization and the Non-Aligned Movement.”

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-01-290514.html

  30. BiBiJon says:

    a sense of continuity with the kind of stability the Assads delivered
    =============================================================

    which involves discontinuing Assad
    ——————————

    Brilliant!

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/05/28/diplomatic_solution_syrian_war_life_support_seven_ways_to_save_it

  31. James Canning says:

    At Lobelog.com today, Paul Pillar has interesting piece on efforts in Washington to block a deal between P5+1 and Iran.

  32. James Canning says:

    Jay,

    What day did the FT piece appear? Was it a leader, or an opinion piece by some economist or politician?

    Property prices are up nearly 50 times over past four decades or so, for the UK as a whole. Prime London, of course, has virtually exploded.

  33. James Canning says:

    Jay,

    I tend to think levels of prostitution in Britain are lower today than they were generations ago. Logic would suggest this must be the case.

    Another issue is how one defines “prostitution”.

  34. Richard Steven Hack says:

    Justin Raimondo’s piece basically agrees with the Leveretts…

    Barack Obama’s Foreign Policy Dilemma
    How to pass off the same old BS as something new
    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/05/29/barack-obamas-foreign-policy-dilemma/

    Notable Quotes

    Anyone who thinks this speech represents any significant change in an administration that has intervened as capriciously as its predecessor will be shocked and saddened by the news Obama is stepping on the gas in the Syrian civil war, determined to arm and give diplomatic support to mythical Syrian “moderates.” He’s still playing ball with Hillary Clinton: this was her big project, along with the Robespierre-like Samantha Power and the sinister tyrant-hugging Susan Rice.

    Amid the hypocritical cant and highflown rhetoric – “I believe in American exceptionalism with every fiber of my being!” – the President even managed to get in a bit about how we needn’t worry about the Surveillance State: “We’re putting in place new restrictions on how America collects and uses intelligence – because we will have fewer partners and be less effective if a perception takes hold that we’re conducting surveillance against ordinary citizens.”

    Never mind that this “perception” is incontestably true, as Edward Snowden has shown beyond any doubt. Lying is part of Obama’s job, and it’s the part at which he excels.

    End Quotes

    In other words, the suckers here who think Obama has given up on Syria or Iran are going to “shocked and saddened”…

    On the other hand, at this point in Obama’s second term, I CAN see him trying to “kick the can down the road” and allow Hillary “Obliterate Iran” Clinton to be the one who gets the Iran war started. Obama is such a narcissist that his primary concern seems to be to exit the White House with the majority of the population still believing in his Kool-Aid and his Nobel Peace Prize – since the real money will be made once he’s out of office, like most Presidents.

    He only has to stretch out the Iran negotiations for another 6-9 months – and allow other crises like the Ukraine to “bomb Syria and Iran off the front page” – and then election season will arrive and he can just coast his last year as President. The question then is will Israel be content to wait for Hillary to come in before renewing the push for a Syria/Lebanon war and then an Iran war.

  35. Richard Steven Hack says:

    Iran Set to Start Converting Low-Enriched Uranium to Fuel
    http://news.antiwar.com/2014/05/29/iran-set-to-start-converting-low-enriched-uranium-to-fuel/

    The 20% stuff Canning is always raving about is almost gone…what will he complain about next to blame Iran for the crisis?

  36. humanist says:

    Re:My post at 3:09pm

    I noticed the full text of Haaretz article might not be available to all.

    In the following you can read it with no strings attached:

    http://warsclerotic.wordpress.com/2014/05/30/was-the-iranian-threat-fabricated-by-israel-and-the-u-s-haaretz

  37. Richard Steven Hack says:

    This will be interesting…

    Glenn Greenwald: NSA documents on Middle East to be disclosed
    http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/19938/

    Quote:

    one of the things we want to work on are documents that detail NSA cooperation with some of the worst tyrants in the Gulf region, both to augment their own domestic surveillance capabilities and also for the NSA to share with those regimes information they get about those countries. This is definitely a big story that remains to be told that we want to work on now…. All I can say is there is a lot more reporting to do on that region of the world.

    End Quote

  38. Richard Steven Hack says:

    Another “intervention” on the way…

    US Moves 1,000 Marines to Libyan Coast Amid Increased Fighting
    http://news.antiwar.com/2014/05/29/us-moves-1000-marines-to-libyan-coast-amid-increased-fighting/

  39. Richard Steven Hack says:

    UN Proposal Would OK Cross-Border Aid Into Syria
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/proposal-cross-border-aid-syria-23920336

    “Diplomats familiar with the draft said it is under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter, which means it could be enforced militarily.”

    And everyone thinks Obama has backed down on Syria…The fact that Australia, Luzemburg and Jordan are circulating the resolution just means Obama is trying to sneak it through the back door. But no doubt Russia and China will veto this as well.

  40. Richard Steven Hack says:

    More David Sanger crap…He seriously goes to John Bolton…

    Iran Hackers Dangle a Familiar Name to Fish for Data
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/31/world/middleeast/iran-hackers-dangle-a-familiar-name-to-fish-for-data.html

  41. Rehmat says:

    @Kathleen

    Matea Gold and Holly Yeager replied your question at the Washington Post on September 3, 2013, saying that Israel and Jewish Lobby is pushing United States for a military attack on Syria. AIPAC in a strongly worded statement told Obama administration than not striking Syria will weaken America and it wouldn’t be able to protect its allies in the region. In March, 2014, Israeli defense minister, Gen. Moshe Ya’alon also said that Israel cannot depend on America for its security.

    On March 3, 2014, Arun Lund at Jewish Carnegie Endowment for International Peace said that if Barack Obama failed to confront Putin in Ukraine, he would not be able to resolve Syrian conflict, which would affect Israel and other American allies in the region.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/05/09/syria-zionist-regime-change-plan-has-failed/

  42. Fiorangela says:

    Annika Rabo traces recent stages in the evolution of Syria’s trading, manufacturing and merchant class, centered in Aleppo, and the ways that the state alternately encouraged, or crushed, or engaged in mutual support of entrepreneurs. Aleppo was one of the oldest continuously inhabited places on earth, and has been a center of commercial vitality for centuries. Today, Aleppo is reduced to rubble, recalling Dresden.

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/opensecurity/annika-rabo/aleppos-souq-witness-to-modern-syrian-state#

  43. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    ‘Tiny elite, huge proletariat’: UK middle class to disappear in 30 years, govt advisor says

    http://rt.com/news/162368-uk-middle-class-disappear/

    The disappearance of the middle class will leave British society with a “tiny elite” and a huge proletariat, believes the expert.

    “The place where this is heading is a strange society with a tiny elite and a long struggling, straggling line which is the rest of us, a new proletariat, who will be in hock to Landlord PLC,” he added.

    Boyle believes middle class citizens must wake up to prevent the middle class from disappearing, adding that they need to create a political movement.

    “I think if there is no place in the middle that anywhere can go to claw their way out of desperate hand to mouth existence, and the precariat, then that condemns us all to a precarious existence because there is no ladder,” he added.

  44. Jay says:

    I raised the prostitution issue not because of its moral implications. The specifics of prostitution in the UK tells us about the gross distortion of the claim that UK is an egalitarian society! If Bussed-in-Basiji’s link is too abstract for you, you should learn some facts.

    In the UK upwards of 70% of women in prostitution are single mothers who do not receive social benefits. Cuts to social programs and the poverty they generate has a particular affect on women, forcing many of them to resort to prostitution to cover basic costs for them and their family. Increasingly young women resort to this type of work so that they can continue their university studies.

    What kind of egalitarian society puts single mothers and university students to work in the sex business?

    What you tend to think conflicts with the data – rate of prostitution is increasing in the UK.

    What you tend to think conflicts with the data – rate of poverty is increasing in the UK.

    The West’s distorted version of capitalism has created a monster that feeds on wars and the weak. UK has been a coauthor for this distorted capitalism. There is no room for democracy, or philosophical pursuit, or enlightenment, when brazen oligarchy rules.

    And, this is where I may disagree with our hosts here.

    Obama’s policies can be viewed as failed policies in the sense that they are not good for the average Joe in the US. Neither are they good for the average Mo in the middle east. However, Obama’s policies have been fantastic for the oligarch Jack in the US, and great for brute dictators protecting the West’s interest in the M.E.

  45. Rehmat says:

    John Kerry and the rest of Israeli poodles have unanimously proclaimed the recent presidential election in Ukraine under US-NATO guns, “democratic” while predicting the June 3 Syrian presidential election to be “fraud”.

    On May 28, Syrians living abroad flocked to Syrian embassies in various foreign capitals to choose among the three presidential candidates; incumbent president al-Assad, Maher Hajjar and Hassan al-Nouri. The election at home will be held on June 3, 2014.

    Most political analysts believe that Bashar al-Assad will win the election hands-down as he has become a hero not only at home but in the entire Arab world for foiling US plan to turn Syria into an Israeli colony.

    In neighboring Lebanon, 100,000 Syrian expatriates flocked to their embassy on May 28 to vote, causing a massive traffic jam throughout the capital, according to country’s security force.

    “We are voting for our great leader Bashar al-Assad, who will bring us, Allah willing, back to our homes,” said Mohammed al-Ali, who hails from the southern Syrian province of Daraa.

    As the Lebanese police (ISP) was trying to hold back the human wave, clashes broke out with Syrian voters in various places. The crowd was brandishing portraits of Assad and chanted “With blood and soul we sacrifice for you, O Bashar!” or “Only God, Syria and Bashar!.” Unable to cope with the situation, the Syrian embassy had to set up makeshift polling stations.

    The vast majority of Syrian voters no longer believe in the western myth of the “Arab Spring.” As they see it, their homeland was attacked by 250,000 foreign mercenaries sponsored by NATO and the GCC. Bashar al-Assad has saved the country from foreign aggression. They explain that they fled their country, not because of the bombing by the Syrian Arab army, but because of they suffered from the crimes at the hands of jihadists backed by NATO and the GCC.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/05/31/heavy-turnout-for-syrian-presidential-election/

  46. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    Jay,

    It’s nice to have seen the journey that our gracious hosts have traveled- from Republican insiders to fans of Noam Chomsky.

    The question remains if they are willing to go all the way and join “the people” and (symbolically) give the middle finger salute to “the elites” that are the satanic forces SL speaks about.

    Castellio and I once asked our hosts the question to what extent this whole detente thing is about preventing Iran from “hooking up” with BRICS and keeping its oil and consumers in the US-UK economic sphere. Our hosts have chosen not to go there yet. At that time I said that maybe these matters are still too close for comfort for our hosts.

    Of course your point raises a very important and fundamental question: to what extent is politics/foreign policy conducted by elites for elites and to what extent for common people?

    To what extent are Rohani/Zarif conducting foreign policy to benefit the people and to what extent to benefit wealthy importers/reps of western products and corporations in Iran?

    Notice how the US admin told the US businessmen visiting Iran that what they are doing has their seal of approval.

    Notice how SL said:

    “…The very task of forming the Islamic Republic was the loftiest step. The formation of the Majlis, which is the manifestation of Islamic democracy, is the greatest feat. The very essence of your position and your presence as the people’s representatives and as the manifestation of religious democracy is a kind of fighting. This should be appreciated and developed.””

    Notice how Rohani calls critics of the Geneva agreement “bi-savad” (uneducated, illiterate) and other assorted words- like a couple days ago in the speech in front of SL.

    One the fundamental lies of liberal capitalism is that what’s good for economic elites and “capitalists” is good for “the people”.

    It’s a god-damn lie.

    And you know who was one the first people to point this out?

    Adam Smith.

  47. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    Bilderberg actually talks nukes, euro nationalism and… Barack Obama – leak

    http://rt.com/news/162740-bilderberg-meeting-leak-agenda/

    Targeting the real terrorists…now this is a target for a drone/cruise missile attack we can all get behind.

  48. James Canning says:

    Bussed-In Basiji,

    Re: Bilderberg meeting Copenhagen (piece you just linked). Russia is getting ready to build yet another gas pipeline to the EU, under the Black Sea. As I am sure you are well aware. The notion China will replace the EU as the largest market for Russian gas within a few years is simply preposterous.

  49. James Canning says:

    Bussed-In Basiji,

    I am curious: in your view is China a capitalist country? Hyper-capitalist? Socialist?

  50. Sammy says:

    Bravo Mr. Norman Pollack :

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/05/30/obamas-rhapsody-on-a-theme-of-aggression/

    The West Point Speech
    Obama’s Rhapsody on a Theme of Aggression
    by NORMAN POLLACK
    Obama’s West Point speech (May 28) now behind us, it is possible to take stock of what the White House hails as an epoch-making pronouncement of change in American foreign policy, but actually is a mere propaganda blip on the historical screen designed to answer a raucous, belligerent, intemperate Right calling for unilateral global dominance through primarily military means, and an alleged Left that, if anything has been passive, noncritical, without substantive alternatives, ideologically trapped by the lesser-of-two-evils argument offering nowhere else to go—and therefore, despite projecting a mythic radicalism in order to assert his centrism, he does not even bother to address. The speech becomes a verbal exercise to give the appearance of change while pursuing the selfsame Rightist policies he feigns to have transcended, but reducing the raucousness by several decibels.

    Obama personifies Reaction in postmodern dress. His speech is a self-advertisement for greatness perhaps hoping to cash-in on George C. Marshall’s Harvard commencement address of 1947 announcing the Marshall Plan, so high have aides and the press touted its significance, as in Peter Baker’s New York Times article (May 29) entitled, “Rebutting Critics, Obama Seeks Higher Bar for Military Action.” In fact, nothing has changed, just the rhetoric (for which we most probably must thank Ben Rhodes, who in a similar vein depicted Obama the man of peace in the earlier Cairo speech dedicated to a rapprochement with the Arab and Muslim peoples. Nothing came of that, nothing will come of this, because both are prevarications, the West Point case not even rising to a promise of change so much as a repackaging of current policy through offering qualifications not easily detected when one starts by offering Obama a free pass and sees what one wants to see.

    The sleight-of-hand becomes obvious when one states the fuller posture of US foreign policy, a context which makes peace impossible to achieve. Raise the bar higher, where the conflict is inconsequential, drop the bar altogether when it comes to China and Russia, a condition, because representing a renewal of the Cold War (which itself, in reality, never ended), that vitiates by the enormity of the risk-taking the totality of the policy framework. Casual use of the term “leadership,” as though divinely bestowed, is so frequently invoked in Obama’s speech that its correlates no longer have to be identified: the right to guide the world structure (primarily, capitalism alone an acceptable system); counterrevolution, the practical means of its achievement; intervention, regime change, espionage, subversion, paramilitary operations, the nuts-and-bolts of maintaining political-economic-ideological supremacy.

    How expect peace when everything in the US policy arsenal works against it, particularly the complete lack of transparency in government, and interrelated, the drive to achieve the massive surveillance of the American public, now indeed consummated, a hog-tied public ripe for the pounding home of the state of false consciousness and consequent societal blindness to foreign aggression and adventurism? Obama may claim that, as here, he wants to avoid a military commitment to rebel forces in Syria (not, however, fastidious about arming them and pressing for regime change), but that counts for little, and certainly not a new doctrine, the so-called middle course between isolationism and full-scale war, when, toward China, his Pacific-first strategy entails the relocation of large-scale naval forces, including carrier groups, long-range aircraft adapted to nuclear war, and other “assets” shifted to the region, combined with firming up military alliances, executing joint maneuvers, and, seemingly unrelated, but of course not, the creation of the TransPacific Partnership, here the militarization of trading, tariff, and investment (so because supplementing the main thrust of the policy framework), a confrontation, big time, for the purpose of encircling, containing, and ultimately isolating China.

    No evidence whatsoever about a policy-transformation, nor, for Russia, the same, Ukraine being the plaything of US policy, as in having actively shared in engineering the coup that overthrew the legally constituted government, knowingly working with fascist-oriented groups to that end, and, like China, consciously seeking confrontation, for now, through the successful placement of NATO troops on the Russian border. The speech has nothing to say about these developments, studiously ignores them, so that “leadership” becomes a benign abstraction. Too, there is no reference to domestic surveillance and foreign eavesdropping, nor to cyberwarfare—again, factors of sufficient significance as to deny claims a transformation is occurring. Even the most blatant of Obama’s bag of tricks, his personally authorized campaign of drone assassination, should make one suspicious of his peace pronouncements, a high-tech fascination if not amusement in which the victim has been vaporized halfway around the world.

    He criticizes “overreach,” yet is this anything but? The political-ideological spectrum, the product of bipartisan agreement and practice, has shifted so far to the Right, that the record he has compiled can be deemed centrist—though, in truth, bordering on, if not fully there yet, fascism. One searches the speech in vain for evidence of drawing back, even the desire to draw back, from staggering military budgets, that and the foregoing obscured by the mere blathering of peace, and the implied threat that absent American “leadership” the world would be subject to barbarism, destruction, chaos. If anything, terrorism is larger in scope and range than ever, decentralized, warranting ever greater vigilance (read: permanent war preparation, abrogation of civil liberties), the bar here dropping several notches. The performance of Obama, a consummate showmanship, is positively beguiling, the discrepancy between word and deed, more so because he gets away with it.

    One reason: an intact continuity of Cold War sentiment dating back decades, succumbed to on all sides, including the labor movement, so that under changing historical circumstances the persistence of the deep-lying anticommunism, despite what are now multiple adversaries (themselves adopting capitalistic features) and therefore shifting ideological ground from the original, is still internalized in the American mindset with the result that it becomes serviceable for the next stage utilized to continue US hegemony. Anticommunism has become transmuted into counterterrorism, yet it contains all of the ideological and emotional baggage carried over from the former. America requires an enemy, to keep its own house in order. The old one starting to wear thin, we now have a new one—and the expansion of institutional mechanisms to surmount it, e.g., the blanket surveillance of the American people to prevent dissent.

    ***

    In his address before the 1,064 graduating cadets in dress whites, Obama’s declaration of change leads to its negation, the escalation of war-provoking policies and their military implementation currently in force. The graduating cadets will, as duly commissioned officers, take their place on the ramparts of Fortress America, protecting the homeland, except that the best defense is reckoned to be an aggressive offense. They will soon find themselves in far-flung places, assisted by CIA-JSOC paramilitary forces and “private contractors” of the Blackwater-type, mercenaries (a means of lowering the count of assigned combat troops) under changing logos. Mission crawl and mission denial become one.

    Obama’s speech is something new in the books, neither Woodrow Wilson’s pious, inflated rhetoric in which the blade of the sword flashes the light of heaven, nor FDR’s plainspoken reassurance of victory, but here a purposeful deflation of geostrategic planning and ambition in order to hide what comes close to being a passion for world conquest. At best (or worst) we see an assembled cast—really, a unified government, the three branches, the two parties, differences, notwithstanding rhetoric, encompassing a very small ideological spectrum, its boundaries defined by advanced-capitalism, militarism, expansion– that I would characterize, albeit harshly, missionaries of nihilism, the more so the closer to Obama. With Team Obama still including Brennan, Rice, Power, Rhodes, Clapper, several tiers of NSA, CIA, FBI, JSOC, Chiefs of Staff, and Pentagon (I beg forgiveness if I’ve omitted some, whether individuals or agencies—one of my favorites, SSO, in the bowels of NSA), how even dream, much less expect, the West Point speech to signify a change of course?

    Missionaries of nihilism, true believers in the magical powers of government remoteness and deception, in which, if our troops (he begins the speech by shedding tears over four cadets from Class of ’09, when first he spoke at West Point, who are no longer with us, yet nary a sigh when sending thousands more service personnel to their deaths, and far more civilians, in wholly illegal actions tantamount to—if he were not POTUS—war crimes) are cannon fodder, our people have become intellectual, or better yet, ideological, fodder, meant to be deceived, because deception is placed in the service of hegemony, of which there is no more fitting aspiration for a nation to maintain. For that is what the speech is about: deception in the service of hegemony, hegemony by this point in American foreign policy becoming the surrogate for or vehicle to achieve the reification of capitalism, really a twofold process of reification, first of hegemony, as a thing in itself, no questions asked, loyalty demanded, and then capitalism, a thing in itself, again same conditions.

    We speak of national honor, and here, the manifold duties and obligations of leadership, leadership itself never questioned, when militarism, the specter energizing the whole framework of thought (or ideology) provides its implementation, when what we mean—our mentalset bogged down in or clogged up by coded signifiers—is the active preservation of a world system under America’s aegis that includes but carries beyond traditional purposes of imperialism, beginning with market penetration and security for global investment, but takes on an increasingly razor-sharp political-economic-ideological program of counterrevolution to ensure the success of the whole. Alternative patterns of systemic development must be and thereby are ruled out, as challenges which might upset America’s complacency about its Exceptionalism and impede its progress in world trade. Whether as values, lifestyle, or the temerity of nations to go their own way, the rule is, one way, our way, or else the highway, the latter a ticket to destruction or structural oblivion. For the former but essentially both, read: shock-and-awe, regime change, intervention, isolation, containment, economic retaliation, for as the war-mind gets busy, all manner of responses are possible.

    Nominally, for Obama, as in Baker’s aforementioned article, the higher bar to military action provides greater latitude for selective conflict. It does not change the fact of and presumed necessity for military action itself–military action that is winnable, quick, decisive, and based entirely on America’s freedom of choice, determined case-by-case, as interpreted through an ever-expanding standard, enunciated in the speech, but neglected as to import by the media, of the national interest. China and Russia, all bets are off, the bar is moveable, dropping steadily downward; meanwhile, American militarism grinds on, Syria (to which he gives attention) fast becoming the stand-in for Ukraine, and we as a nation now divided between those who believe Obama on peace and social justice and those who want him to go further, with few Left voices to call his bluff and expose his treachery. For that would be considered unpatriotic and irresponsible, the ideological pressures seemingly too strong to withstand. Besides, the reasoning goes, look how bad the Republicans are; be thankful for what we have. False consciousness obliterates class—or any other—understanding, one more reason not be blown away by the West Point speech.

    ***

    Instead, pronounce curses on what we have, what I might summarize as: The blanket of surveillance/the surveillance blanket. On the first, surveillance of the American people (and for Keith Alexander of NSA, why not the world?) has reached a point whereby privacy has been effectively extinguished. That is fascism, slice it, dice it, any way you wish. Democracy, absent privacy, is a hollow shell, its foreign policy, accordingly, and in practice, whatever ruling groups want and how they interpret the systemic imperatives of the framework to which they owe their status and privileges. A democratic society does not SPY on its own people—or any others. Read Glenn Greenwald’s “No Place To Hide” and be amazed at the extent of the surveillance, the number of programs trotted out by NSA, like PRISM, BLARNEY, FAIRVIEW, OAKSTAR, STORMBREW, a library of acronyms from hell that continues on, stretching the alphabet to its limits, and PROJECT BULLRUN, EGOTISTICAL GIRAFFE, MUSCULAR, OLYMPIA…need I continue?

    The young patriarch of nihilism wisely looks on, surrounded by gems of humanity like Michael Hayden, whom I neglected to mention (even Brennan, waterboarding stalwart, seems eclipsed by the war hawks of Team Obama), now, at West Point, himself the window dressing for an alleged new, transformative vision of American foreign policy. It plays well there, because few in the nation believe him in the first place. Americans reject peace. Our political sanity depends on the Constant Enemy at the gates—the permanent threat, so that we can selectively scapegoat in such an atmosphere anyone whom we wish, this as prelude to and ratifying condition for, above all, keeping ourselves in line, lest we grow restive over consumerism and military conquest. The West Point speech is an integral part of the bread-and-circuses, its equivalent, the music of sweet patriotism, we thrive on to ward off occasional self-doubts about the splendors of American civilization and the costs of maintaining it and keeping it on top.

    All of the foregoing feeds into what I would term the liberalization of militarism. Nothing is changed, only rendered the more delicious: e.g., humanitarian interventionism (implied in the speech, a racket to justify every US military action and/or power play since the days of the Open Door—late 19th century); y Exceptionalism, (also implied there, with its compelling message collective moral superiority); and the Obama pep-talk riff on the affirmative spirit, the guaranteed feel-good vibes found in a key phrase of the speech, “America Must Always Lead,” hardly the formula for a change in the direction taken by foreign policy. As the rhetoric rises, the curtain draws down on human freedom at home and abroad, the latter especially relevant here as there is no sign of favoring the mutual renunciation of force and a willingness on America’s part, quite the opposite, to accept an end to its unilateralism………..

  51. James Canning says:

    Jay,

    What do I “tend to think” about Britain’s economy?

    I am sure that levels of prostitution in Britain a century ago with much migher than today. Your view?

  52. James Canning says:

    Rehmat,

    Aaron Lund is talking nonsense, about Ukraine and about Syria.

  53. James Canning says:

    RS Hack,

    Your contention I have been “raving” about Iran’s 20% U is rubbish. I have noted a number of times Iran had stopped increasing its stockpile of 20U.

  54. James Canning says:

    Fascinating piece by Philip Weiss at Mondoweiss.net today: “[Bill] Clinton cautioned Israelis on giving up Golan because Syrians might try to poison Sea of Galilee”.

  55. BiBiJon says:

    Richard Steven Hack says:
    May 30, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    “More David Sanger crap…He seriously goes to John Bolton…”

    Once again Livid Anger has been relegated to the Saturday edition.

    humanist says:
    May 30, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Haaretz has now removed the paywall on the Porter interview

  56. Sammy says:

    Interesting article and related comment :

    http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/05/31/364932/eu-vote-freight-train-of-opposition/

    ..These kinds of statements will become a European mantra. This is very bad for the success of the empire. America is stone broke. Except for multiple financial crimes against humanity it would have no money for war. These financial war crimes are rampant across the EU and within the EU parliament. Replenishing the coffers and troop build-ups of NATO will not likely continue. This will leave America only its own people to pillage for a few shekels more for war.

    Let’s now strip the veneer of political correctness regarding the EU vote and translate it for all to hear far and wide. The people are “mad as hell.” They are not going to take it anymore. No more austerity. No more war!

    Mr. Cameron. Mr. Holland. Mr. Kerry. You had better be listening. That sound you ignore coming from Brussels…. Its a train! …

    Grampah

    May 31, 2014 3:12 PM

    “Washington was also in denial. Writing for the “respected” Brookings Institute, Douglas J. Elliott, as a true American, was of course blind to the value of growing opposition via democracy. “Mr. Elliot is a stooge, a tool for the predominately Zionist “think tank” called Brookings Institute. They don’t think, they are fed New World Order, aka Zionist World Order plans. So Elliot is writing for his paycheck not like a “true American”. What the “true American” knows, thinks, acts upon is a different topic.I appreciate your article. The Zionist press in the US will do it’s job of “gatekeeper” of their lies and as always shift public focus to something trivial.Stopping privatization means little to the oligarchs. they are gleaning fortunes from it. Trillions disappeared from the US. Cutoff the enormous flow of cash from criminal activity and the US will really be broke.

  57. James Canning says:

    Sammy,

    The EU vote reflected deep popular discontent with large numbers of immigrants coming into various EU countries.

    Do you think the EU should try to stop the influx from Africa and the Middle East?

  58. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    June 1, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    EI is already doing that.

  59. fyi says:

    All:

    A comment from Arms Control Wonk

    Rene | May 31, 2014

    I think the main problem with Obama’s speech is that he really articulated what he believes. That’s not a politically wise approach. If he used more aggressive language and kept his current policies, he would face less criticism and better deter US adversaries.

    Apart from his misplaced honesty, Obama’s main foreign policy problem is Syria, as you mentioned. Unfortunately, virtually no one in the US is realistic enough to admit that Syria was wrecked when the West allowed Turkey/Qatar/KSA to arm the rebels. Both Kofi Annan and Lakhdar Brahimi have criticized militarizing of the opposition, which was based on the “massive miscalculation” (Annan’s words) that claimed Assad is about to fall. But no one in the US can afford to recognize this reality. No one can recognize that maybe Assad’s regime does have the support of a substantial portion, probably even a majority, of Syrians. No one appears wiling to blame the Saudi policy of using sectarianism to “hit a home run.” Instead everyone is looking at Syria as an ideological battleground: there was a bad guy who did bad things and we failed to stop him. Obama seems to have done the best under the circumstances. He couldn’t stop Sunni regional states from arming the rebels, so at least he tried to moderate their all-in attitude. If he hadn’t, Syria would be even more fractured, disfunctional and chaotic than it is today. But sufficient damage is done. There is a new Afghanistan. Perhaps the next president will invade it.

    The real reason, of course, was to wound Iran and facilitate the future war against her.

  60. James Canning says:

    One of Angela Merkel’s favourite sayings is that the EU has 7% of the world’s population, 25% of its economy [GDP], and 50% of its spending on social services.
    – - Sunday Times (London) May 18th

  61. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Italy now rescues boats of Africans that founder before landfall in Iraly. This change of policy has increased considerably the number of Africans traversing Libya to get to Italy (and beyond).

  62. James Canning says:

    Phip Stephens, in the Financial Times May 30th: “The elections to the European Parliament last week were not quite the populist rout of some excited headlines. Yet the anti-elite, anti-immigrant and, in some cases, anti-EU protest was plain enough.”

  63. James Canning says:

    Philip Stephens also wrote, in FT May 30th: “Welfare systems designed for another age are buckling under the pressure of globalisation.”

  64. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Some of the Saudi and Qatari backers of the insurgency in Syria assumed Obama would quickly bring US power into play against the Syrian government. Perhaps they would not have helped launch the vicious civil war had they understood how reluctant he would be to have US military directly involved.

  65. BiBiJon says:

    Anyone knows anything about this latest BBC hit piece?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27656268

  66. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    Car and agricultural imports into Iran triple

    Time to pay back the parasites that strangled the markets at the end of the previous administration.

    Somebody’s making a shitload of money…I’m sure it’s “the people”, right?

    عملیاتی کردن اقتصاد مقاومتی در ابهام؛
    واردات کالاهای لوکس و کشاورزی سه برابر شد

    http://www.mashreghnews.ir/fa/news/314401/%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AA-%DA%A9%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D9%84%D9%88%DA%A9%D8%B3-%D9%88-%DA%A9%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%B2%DB%8C-%D8%B3%D9%87-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B1-%D8%B4%D8%AF

    فزایش واردات خودرو نسبت به سال گذشته بدون تردید نتیجه آزادسازی واردات کالاهای لوکس است که از چند ماه پیش اجرایی شده است.

    بدین ترتیب واردات خودروهای خارجی حدود 3/4 درصد از کل ارزش واردات کشور در دو ماه نخست امسال را به خود اختصاص داده است. این در حالی است که سال گذشته در همین مدت، واردات خودروهای خارجی فقط 1/6 درصد از کل ارزش واردات کشور را در اختیار داشت.

    حقیقت دیگری که نگران کننده است، تداوم سهم بالای واردات کالاهای اساسی و نهاده های دامی است. در بند 6 سیاست های اقتصاد مقاومتی بر افزایش تولید داخلی نهاده‌ها و کالاهای اساسی(بویژه در اقلام وارداتی)، و اولویت دادن به تولید محصولات و خدمات راهبردی و ایجاد تنوع در مبادی تأمین کالاهای وارداتی با هدف کاهش وابستگی به کشورهای محدود و خاص، تاکید شده است.

    با این حال، همچنان کشورمان به واردات برنج، کنجاله، روغن خام و گندم، وابسته است. هرچند رسیدن به خودکفایی در این محصولات در کوتاه مدت ممکن نیست، اما اقدامات جدی و عملی در این راستا نیز دیده نمی شود و احتمالا خوش بینی نسبت به تسهیل مبادلات خارجی و واردات این اقلام، سبب کوتاهی در پیگیری خودکفایی آنها شده است.

    مقام معظم رهبری در سال های اخیر بارها نسبت به روند افزایشی واردات هشدار داده و خواستار مدیریت آن شده اند که در ادامه به نمونه هایی از فرامین ایشان اشاره می کنیم:

    ما اگر اهمیت می‌‌دهیم به صنعت داخلی- حالا در زمینه‌‌ی خودرو که فعلًا محل کلام ماست و یا زمینه‌‌های دیگر- بایستی سیاست تعدیل بازرگانی خودمان را در این زمینه حتماً تنظیم کنیم. یعنی واردات بی‌‌رویه قطعاً ضرر خواهد زد. دستگاه‌‌های سیاست‌گذار کشور و کسانی که سیاست‌های اجرائی را تنظیم می‌کنند، به این نکته باید توجه کنند. فراوانی و ارزانی چیز خیلی خوبی است، اما از آن مهم‌‌تر و بهتر، رشد صنعت داخلی است؛ قوام گرفتن صنعت داخلی است. این درست نیست که ما به دلائل گوناگونی که غالباً هم دلائل واهی است، دروازه را به روی واردات باز کنیم. من بارها به مسئولین- مسئولین گوناگون در بخشهای مختلف دولتی- گفتم: اگر فلسفه‌‌ی شما، منطق شما برای افزایش واردات و تسهیل وارداتِ ساخته‌‌های صنعتی این است که می‌‌گوئید کیفیت مصنوعات داخلی باید بالا برود، خب فشار را روی این بخش بگذارید. سیاست‌هائی وجود دارد که می‌شود وادار کرد، مجبور کرد تولیدکننده‌‌ی داخلی را به اینکه کیفیت را ارتقاء بدهد. بدترین گزینه برای بالا بردن کیفیت داخلی این است که ما راه را برای مصنوعات خارجی باز کنیم؛ این، بدترین گزینه است. گزینه‌‌های بهتری وجود دارد برای اینکه ما کیفیت را بالا ببریم. 1389/01/09

    مسئله‌ی دیگر، واردات است؛ که حالا اینجا هم اشاره شد، من هم بارها با مسئولین در زمینه‌ی واردات صحبت کردم. البته هیچ کس با واردات مخالف نیست؛ تنظیم واردات لازم است، کنترل واردات لازم است. صرف اینکه ما نگذاریم بازار در یک فصلی – مثلاً فصل شب عید – از فلان کالا خالی بماند، خیلی توجیه کاملی برای افزایش واردات نیست. حتماً بایستی در مسئله‌ی واردات ملاحظه‌ی تولید داخلی بشود. البته گفته میشود که واردات به رقابت‌پذیری تولید داخلی کمک میکند؛ اگر واردات نباشد، تولیدکننده‌ی داخلی به کیفیت یا به قیمت تمام‌شده اهمیت نمیدهد؛ واردات، او را به این کار وادار میکند. به نظر من این خیلی منطق قوی‌ای نیست. در این خصوص، با بعضی از مسئولین بحثهائی هم داشتیم. در مسئله‌ی واردات، بالخصوص اشاره کنم به بخش کشاورزی. به اعتقاد من واردات محصولات کشاورزی خیلی توجیه قوی‌تری میخواهد از آنچه که امروز انسان مشاهده میکند. ما در بخش کشاورزی تولیدات ممتازی داریم. 1390/5/26

    من نسبت به مسئله‌ی مدیریت واردات به دولتی‌ها سفارش کردم؛ الان هم تأکید میکنم. من نمیگویم واردات متوقف بشود؛ چون یک جاهائی لازم است که واردات انجام بگیرد؛ اما واردات باید مدیریت بشود. یک جائی واردات مطلقاً نباید بشود؛ یک جاهائی باید انجام بگیرد. با مدیریت، واردات انجام بگیرد. البته مسئولین محترم دولتی به من گفتند که قوانینی که مجلس تصویب کرده، به ما اجازه نمیدهد جلوی واردات را بگیریم؛ من خواهش میکنم این قضیه را حل کنند. اگر واقعاً قانونی وجود دارد که دولت را ممنوع میکند از جلوگیری از واردات، این قانون را اصلاح کنند؛ جوری باشد که مدیریت بشود. باید تولید ملی بالا برود. 1389/5/27

  67. Sammy says:

    Bussed-in Basiji says:
    June 2, 2014 at 3:18 am

    Dear BiB , then how can we criticize Smith when he speaks about the ‘ cargo cult ‘.
    I am sure you also receive all of these endless SMS with Antalya and Thailand and God knows what tours for T 1.5 million , it’s pathetic , I am speechless.
    At every turn a ‘Haj Agha’ has opened a new car show room and there are currently millions of unsold brand-new cars in the world rotting in the sun , disgusting…..
    Just read this article in zerohedge and see the pictures.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-16/where-worlds-unsold-cars-go-die

  68. Winston Smith says:

    The problem was Obama’s policymakers were assured this plan WOULD WILDLY SUCCEED when they assumed office, having been begun by the previous administration.

    Next, various brands of Islamicists and Jihadists were recruited to carry it into effect. These it must be emphasised were in the employ of the US. government.

    Planning and organising were moved to London to help disguise responsibility.

    Hence the alarm in Britain and the Conservative government’s own Conservative MP’s voting down any direct intervention.

    As expressed in The Times;-

    “It is in the long term vital interests of the US.to support Assad’s government.
    It is in the long term vital interests of Israel to support Assad’s government.
    It is in the long term vital interests of Britain to support Assad’s government.”

    They then jokingly went on that went Assad had sorted out his Jihadists over there we could invite him to Britain to sort out ours as he was the only one to have arguments they understood.

    The idea appears to have been they could be put back in the box when success was achieved, which is highly unlikely.

    Which brings us to the present position, where is apparently thought “moderates” can be recruited to achieve success for us.

    As the article says it was Hillary’s personal project.

  69. Jay says:

    Bussed-in Basiji says:
    May 31, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Bussed-in Basiji,

    The following preprint of a forthcoming article by Gilens & Page is worth of a quick read.

    https://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20materials/Gilens%20and%20Page/Gilens%20and%20Page%202014-Testing%20Theories%203-7-14.pdf

    The manuscript “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens” uses data and statistical analysis to demonstrate the influence of elites. It takes a lot of “in my opinion” out of it!

    I am the first one to admit that the study is not perfect. However, with imperfections included, the figure on page 29 (figure 1) tells a compelling story. The Elites interest outweigh business group influence and mass-based interest group influence by a very healthy margin! Note that AIPAC is included in the mass-based interest groups – the group that does not have nearly as much influence as the elites. It suggests that US and the West’s policy is driven by the elites unabashed greed!

    The helping hand of capitalism, left unchecked, has morphed into a giant arm that crushes democracy and economic hope for 99.99% of the world.

  70. BiBiJon says:

    James,

    Cameron did something right https://www.gov.uk/government/world-location-news/baroness-nicholson-appointed-as-new-united-kingdom-trade-envoy-to-iraq

    For all the reasons cited in _http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4337/baroness-nicholson-iran-iraq

  71. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    Sammy-jan,

    I’ve always pointed out that I agree with the basic gist of mofo bitches arguments. I have a problem with his arrogance, exaggerations, false generalizations and lack of real-world experience.

    He also really needs to get laid- urgently. Failure to do so will affect his rational thinking abilities.

    As I have said previously, if he’s not an agent provocateur, his problem is mental stability and the way he says what he says, not his superior-super-duper-hyper “intelligence”.

    An example of that is using terms like “cargo cult” which is not very precise for somebody soooo intelligent. If he wants to belittle religious belief, a little more creativity and a little less vitriol would be better.

    Jay-jan,

    Assuming the findings are accurate- which I do- the problem seems to be centered around the issue of the method of elections. In other words the method of elections is “biased” towards those that can mobilize cash for the various things needed to run for office- reinforced by legislation and court decisions that strengthen and ratify the system of elections.

    Clearly the wealthy (for example wealthy supporters of Israel or gay rights) and the business sector have a “comparative advantage” in this battlefield, versus other political actors.

    Of course this goes back on the federal level and state level, to the fact of large political units in which electioneering equals access and use of mass media- whose barrier to entry again is money.

    In other words America is not a democracy but a “plutocracy” and veering towards an oligarchy (Koch Brothers, Adelson, etc.)

    I’ve said earlier, before you joined us, that the only solution to re-establish “democracy” in the land area of the current US, is to break it up into regional and state level independent republics whose social consensus/”common weal” includes legal limits on the application of political power by the wealthy and the corporate sector.

    In the words of Rommney: “Corporations are humans too…”

    And what I say is in fact very Christian, conservative, patriotic and in line with the political history and culture of America until very recently.

  72. Karl.. says:

    There is some interesting statements today by IAEA-leader that the “trigger” issue with Iran is about to be solved.

  73. Smith says:

    Sammy says:
    June 2, 2014 at 5:07 am

    You wont get any meaningful response from this mofo. He and his existence are the obstacles to Iran’s progress. These rapists and torturers, are guilty of all the suffering in Iran. Cargo cult, that I have been using and elaborating on this website to refer to Iranian nation, is a specific reference to cultural behavior of Iranian nation towards solving their economic needs supply problems (as you can see around yourself). He and other rapists like him, can give you no solution to problems of Iran (they are themselves the cause of the problems). They just keep complaining and blaming others. But I can give you solutions. Let me give you couple of examples here:

    1) This mofo, from time to time criticizes the accumulation of capital and true to his marxist MKO roots, goes on rants against capital accumulation and cheerleading the execution of businessmen. This is one of the fundamental problems of Iranian economy that it does not allow capital accumulation. Without capital accumulation, there is no private sector capable of large scale industrialization and therefore the possibility of increase in material production and prosperity. Therefore the corrupt, anti-competition and inefficient government instead of doing its real job of market regulation, has to become a market player by investing in industries, with disastrous results as you see in Iran.

    Instead of executing a corrupt businessman, all the government officers and politicians in contact with that corrupt businessman should have been executed (every single one of them, big or small including Larijanis) but not the businessman himself. And the businessman should have been made just to pay the financial damage he had caused but not even giving him a prison term. If he did not have the money to pay for the damages, then he should have been let go free under very generous bankruptcy laws. This would have prevented future episode of corruption (which in Iran almost always emanates from the government with rapist mofos like this one at helm) but it would not have killed the private risk taking behavior necessary for a prosperous business environment.

    Already the business environment in Iran, is suffering because of the execution that they did few days ago in order to hide the corruption of rapist mofos in the government, with genuine investors being afraid of their lives to invest or take risks. After all what is the use of accumulating the capital if tomorrow Larijani family or another mob or mofo falls in love with your daughter/wife/wealth and uses his government powers to execute you.

    I mean if you were a big shot investor, and had to deal with corrupt politicians and corrupt mofo government officers, would you not be afraid? An Iranian investor/entrepreneur/inventor is much safer in United States, Germany, Japan or even in UAE, than he is in Iran. Because of the presence of these mofo’s, in Iran we can not have families like Toyoda of Japan. You see, these same mofo’s stole the private wealth of the most successful industrialist and entrepreneur in the history of Iran, Hadji Barkhordar and left him broke (he was a staunch Shia from a very religious family by the way). Then these mofo’s promoted rent, corruption and cargo cult behavior of giving exclusive import licenses and LC’s to their fak-o-famil.

    Now, anybody who wants to challenge these rapists, gets blamed as “agent provocateur”, “khaen” and “zede-enqhelab” and then sentenced to death (after a long period of torture). This is what it has come to. The Iranian economy is now solely running on corruption, riba, sood, sefteh, theft etc etc instead of running on risk, technological innovation and hard work.

    2) United Nations published a report last year, in which Iran ranks above Kenya and below Lebanon in terms of industrial patents, design and marks: http://www.wipo.int/export/sites/www/freepublications/en/intproperty/941/wipo_pub_941_2013.pdf

    Why is that so? Because we have mofos as managers who torture and kill anyone who even slightly tries to give constructive suggestions which interfere with their rents and corruption (as is even evident on this forum with this rapist mofo who does not provide any solution attacks those who do). You see, in Iran, the mofos in the banking sector like this mofo here, will never fund startups, business incubators, seed accelerators etc etc. They will pour all the money into besaz-befroshi. As you can go back and read this mofo’s posts in which he used to praise the construction of crammed multi-storey buildings in Tehran and equal it to Iran’s economic prosperity. These mofo’s take advantage of people’s ignorance in order to fool them. Economic prosperity does not come from besaz befroshi and rent from import licenses, but from increase in material production.

    From time to time, this mofo claims that Iran’s GDP is 2.5 trillion dollars (more than Canada and Australia combined), despite the fact that he does not even know what GDP is. In sciences, lies and speculation have no place. In cargo cult it is the cornerstone of their ideology. Whenever you have a problem and you go to cargo cult for answers, they reply by regurgitating lies as you can see this mofo is doing here.

  74. nico says:

    Jay says:

    June 2, 2014 at 8:15 am

    “The following preprint of a forthcoming article by Gilens & Page is worth of a quick read.”

    Again… I am quite sorry to state that it is obvious…

    Very few arguments qre needed to prove that US are a plutocracy.

    The first obvious argument is that unlimited cash “donation” is allowed in US politics.

    Very many country forbid cash donation and campaign budget.

    As an example in France, the budget is limited to 25 Millions Euro or so per presidential candidature.
    And “donation” are limited to 7500Eur per year and per individual (global amount whatever the number of parties which are cash washed).
    And “donation” by corporation is forbiden.
    Maybe that is only theoritical and unperfect but that is law and provide limitations.

    How it is in the US that corporations and individuals are allowed to buy elections with unlimited funds.
    That is not democracy. That is plutocracy.
    And that is obvious.
    No need for some kind of academic study…

  75. James Canning says:

    BiBiJon,

    I agree Lady Nicholson is a great choice for the job (increasing Anglo-Iraqi trade).

  76. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    Sammy-jan,

    I think his post nicely proves my point- in his own words and “unique” style.

    “Raping”, “torturing”, “killing”, wild generalizations, insults, innuendos- you get the picture…like I said- URGENTLY needs to get laid.

    Again many things he says are basically right, he just says them in a really shitty way which makes him loose the audience.

    And he’s too arrogant to acknowledge this flaw and change it.

    Arrogance and intelligence- very very bad combo.

    The irony is that bitch talks a lot about “hard work”, but has not engaged in one single day of it in his whole pathetic life.

    Too busy jerking off behind the computer.

    What we learn from bitch, boys and girls, is that simply being “intelligent”, is not enough to be a “successful” human being.

    Intelligence is good but you need other things as well- you know things like a tiny little bit of humility.

    A sense of humor doesn’t hurt either.

  77. nico says:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-pressures-south-korea-to-join-anti-missile-system/5384877

    “The United States last week stepped up pressure on South Korea to take part in Washington’s regional anti-ballistic missile system. The South Korean government has in the past been reluctant to take part, rather focusing on its own indigenous program. The incorporation of South Korea into the existing US partnership on so-called “missile defence” with Japan would further inflame regional tensions.”

    As I stated time and again here that is game play in the US wider global dominance agenda.
    Is that against rogue Iran ?
    Oups may rogue Israel ?
    No ?
    Maybe rogue NK ?
    Or maybe that is China and Russia encirclement ?

    Laughable…

  78. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Illegal immigration into the EU from Africa and the Middle East this year is twice as high as last year. Literally a flood of illegal immigrants.

  79. Smith says:

    Fyi has been telling this again and again (only to be attacked by mofo’s):

    اما تاکنون، چه کسی همت کرده است تا یک مجموعه عظیم از تمام متون مهم فارسی آماده کرده که بتوان از دل آن هر چیزی را در حوزه ایران و اسلام و زبان فارسی یافت و مشکل را حل کرد. یک ضرب المثل را، یک لغت را، یک اصطلاح علوم قدیمه را، یک ترکیب لغوی را، یک شعر را، یک نقطه جغرافیایی را، و دهها مشکل دیگر…. تنها قدم ناقص، کار مرکز نور قم است که با کمترین امکانات یک اقدام خوب کرده، اما شاید ده درصد راه را هم نرفته است.

    آیا برای ما ایرانیان، فراهم آوردن یک مجموعه از کتابها به صورت دیجیتال با یک برنامه خوب حاوی اقلا پنجاه هزار کتاب در حوزه ایرانشناسی کار دشواری است؟‌ به نظرم نه. مشروط به این که پول کتابخانه ها صرف همایش های نامربوط سیاسی نشود. مشروط به آنکه روسای آن ها خیلی در فکر کارهای بین المللی نباشند بلکه اول به کار ملی فکر کنند، مشروط به آن که درک درستی بر مجموعه های دانشنامه ای حاکم باشد، مشروط به آن که پول کافی در اختیار آنها گذاشته شود. بماند که هنوز یک دانشنامه درست و درمان نداریم و جز کار قدیم دهخدا و معین و مصاحب، که همه کهنه شده، چیز کاملی پیش رو نداریم.

    برای رضای خدا، آری برای رضای خدا، یکی از این مراکز ایرانشناسی، فرهنگستانی یا دانشنامه ای، به جای نوشتن مدخلهای تکراری، یک مجموعه اینچنینی فراهم کنند. آن وقت، بسیاری از پژوهشگران دیگر نیازمند مدخلهای غیر حرفه ای آنها نیستند بلکه خودشان در آن مجموعه از متون فارسی، شامل همه تواریخ و دواوین و متون کهن پارسی و غیره می توانند گمشده خود را پیدا کنند.

    http://khabaronline.ir/detail/358036/weblog/jafarian

  80. Smith says:

    Iran is one of the largest importers of wheat in the world, and a country with persistent drought and a dangerous water reserve situation, in addition to being under sanctions has a hard time to pay and import wheat with the result of shaky food security and great burden on Iran’s foreign currency reserves. Wheat is the most important food in Iranian human consumption pattern as well as farming practices.

    With such a critical and strategic importance, you would expect, all these years, Iran must have been pouring funds into research for wheat varieties and GMO wheat that are resistant to disease and drought. Alas, the mofo’s will never allow that since it interferes with their rents from their import licences. For these kind of research you have be in United State or in Australia: http://sciencewise.anu.edu.au/articles/Drought%20Resistant%20Wheat

    When was the last time something good and beneficial to whole humanity came out of Iran? Any antibiotic or antineoplastic? Any GMO? Any engineering marvel? Any microprocessor? Any anything? A nation that only knows khordan and ridan. And then these cargo cults have the strongest feelings of entitlement to have access and even the right to consuming the best of the western technology can offer from Airbus and Boeing planes to Toshiba CT-Scanners and American medicine.

    In a way the sanctions are the best thing that have happened to Iran in a long time. It is showing to Iranians their true worth.

  81. Smith says:

    The cargo cult nation can not even install a software without the western help (forget about building something new or inventions and discoveries): http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/27/growing-up-with-canceriniran.html

    This is our worth. Bare and simple.

  82. Smith says:

    Libyans want Qaddafi back: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/06/libya-failing-country-desperate.html

    Such is the state of affairs of Islamic lands and communities that a joker dictator is the best they could produce.

  83. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    “A nation that only knows khordan and ridan.”

    Like I said, either an agent provocateur or a mental case that needs professional help.

    Or both.

  84. Bussed-in Basiji says:

    Return of the living (neo-con) dead
    By Pepe Escobar

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-01-030614.html

    “Progressives in the US still try to save the day, frantically calling for a core “restoration” of American economic and democratic health; a rather impossible undertaking when casino capitalism rules and the US is now for all practical purposes an oligarchy. These dreamers actually believe this “restoration” is what Obama has done or is trying to do; and that would project the US once again as a global model – and thus “encourage” democracy everywhere. Sorry to break the news, but for the overwhelming majority of the genuine, fact on the ground “international community”, the notion of the US promoting democracy is now D.O.A.

    So under the banner of exceptionalism – versus the competing birth of a Eurasian century – it’s been a fascinating exercise to witness the catfight at the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore, which I described last year as the Spielbergs and Clooneys of the military sphere all locked up in a Star Wars room (actually a ballroom with chandeliers at the Shangri-La Hotel.)”

  85. Karl.. says:

    So if Rouhani did this what would the response be by the western states?

    ukraine attack civilians with plane.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grewuAAMjZA
    ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssqvx6UOvd4

    ANother reason why Iran shouldnt care about what west thinks or “condemns”…

  86. fyi says:

    Smith says:

    June 2, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    Below is what the late Mr. Khomeini was saying as well:

    “Sanctions are the best thing that have happened to Iran in a long time. It is showing to Iranians their true worth”

  87. Jay says:

    Bussed-in Basiji says:
    June 2, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Intelligence and intuition are valuable traits, but it is discipline and critical analysis – hard work – that turns these valuable traits into tangible results.

    Intelligence and intuition provide the basis for identifying potential flaws and proposing potential solutions. Yet, they remain merely a potential – nothing more. It is discipline and critical analysis that turns the identification of flaws to opportunities for improvement and the potential for solutions to actual improvements.

    It is okay to be a critic – it shows initiative. The question is: is it okay to constantly assert that problems and their solutions are “obvious” and that other people are idiots, or some other name, if they don’t see it the same way. Newton and Galileo “assumed” that time was universal, independent, and flowed on its own. It was quite “obvious” to them and a lot of other “smart” people. No one bothered to question this, or attempt to demonstrate it. Albert Einstein asked “Why is it obvious?” It turned out that it was not obvious at all! By challenging “the obvious”, he changed our understanding of the world for some time to come.

    The political and cultural system in Iran is doing somethings right, and other things, perhaps, wrong. Under social and political stress, the system is experiencing the strains of transformation, just as the US did 50 or so years after her revolution. What is not obvious is the indigenous course of the solution to Iran’s challenges. The circular logic that prescribes the solution to be the eradication of the problem is “obvious, but useless.

  88. fyi says:

    Smith says:

    June 2, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    I think it also demonstrates the extent to which Axis Powers are careless of human life and dignity when they believe their hard interests are at risk.

    I mean, these do-gooders have no qualms about murdering the late Qaddafi, indicting Mr. Basheer of Sudan for human rights abuses, creating a country for Christian dirt-farmers in East Timor etc., causing the murder of a million people in Rwanda but never indicting the late Francois Mitterrand or members of his government and so on.

    Surely you cannot expect them to care about children with cancer in Iran?

    You have to understand that the Axis Powers are like Japanese during their Imperial Age – “Why do you complain? You are weak, we walk all over you. That is Nature’s Way.”

    Very many people in Iran did not understand this, I hope that by now they have understood this.

    The only answer to the Axis Powers’ philosophy of power is equal and more power; as you saw what happened in Ukraine vis-à-vis Russia as well as what did not happen on the Korean Peninsula vis-à-vis North Korea.

  89. nico says:

    Jay says:
    June 3, 2014 at 8:41 am

    “Intelligence and intuition are valuable traits, but it is discipline and critical analysis – hard work – that turns these valuable traits into tangible results.”

    Again you have a point here.
    it is a good thing for academics to adress such issues as democracy and governance.
    And it shows that it is becoming a “fashionable” subject for the elite, be it intellectual or financial.
    Just like the Piketty work.

    My point is that such thing as democracy does not need some elite thinking to be defended.
    it is a question of common decency and very basic principle.

    The oligarchy bring shift to the political paradigm by small touch and at the end of the road nobody has reacted when the final consequence is a huge gap between the original status to the current/final status.

    What I try to convey is that basic principles are better defended by the brick layer than the so called intellectual elite.

    Few years ago the US suprem court authorized unlimited political funding by corporations.
    Under Bill Clinton era anti-trust laws regarding MSM concentration and financial concentration were abolished.

    Only common decency and basic moral principles may fight such degeneration. Not the so called intellectual in their elitist comfort.

    What is needed in the US and western world is a populace uprising not “intellectual” advices and academic studies.

    To come back to my first example of political funding what is intellectual in that ?
    Does political influence should be proportional to one money and wealth ? Without limitation ?
    Who should have a say in the political influence of a society ? Citizens or corporations ?
    Should mega-corporation have the right to influence the heart of the democratic process between citizens and the nation representative ?

    That is common sense and very basic principle. Not intellectual wanking.

  90. Nasser says:

    http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2014/06/02/south-asia-on-cusp-of-strategic-realignment/

    - Would be very dumb of India if true. I personally don’t believe them to be stupid enough to discard such a long lasting fruitful relationship for vague dubious promises from Washington and Tokyo. Russia isn’t Iran after all.

  91. James Canning says:

    Jim Lobe has interesting comments today at Lobelog.com: “Gates wrote Obama’s West Point speech”.

  92. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Surely you are aware Iran would today have far more power if it had not been handicapped by the sanctions.

  93. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    ForeignPolicy this week has a story on the flood of people from the Middle East and Africa, entering the EU illegally so far this year. Twice as many as last year.

  94. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    June 3, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    Nope….you are wrong.

  95. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    June 3, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    So, EU destroys Syria and Libya; tried to destroy Iran and now wonders why there are refugees.

  96. Jay says:

    nico says:
    June 3, 2014 at 10:35 am

    Thanks for your input nico. I appreciate the clarity of your moral and intellectual compass. However, you must realize that these subjects are not easy for everyone. You are probably aware that these intrinsic notions of morality, democracy, etc. have been the subject of intense philosophical debate for centuries. In fact, religions are founded on the grounds of necessity for establishing appropriate doctrines.

    When people tell me that the IRI, or this and that country, has not done so and so, or it should have done that and the other, and they claim that it is obvious, I am compelled to ask why. What is it obvious? I think that sometime claims of obvious hide the vacuity of the argument – like the math teacher who cannot fill the gap in the step and yells at the student “it is obvious!” I am not saying that you do this, I am just saying that “obvious” is not a rational argument because it cannot be tested.

  97. nico says:

    Jay says:
    June 3, 2014 at 8:41 am

    “It is okay to be a critic – it shows initiative. The question is: is it okay to constantly assert that problems and their solutions are “obvious” and that other people are idiots, or some other name”

    Where did I stated thatyou are an idiot ?
    That is wrong perception of yours.
    I debate about the core of the issue and potential solution.

    You assert that the solution may come from the intellectual “elite” and academics.
    You are entilted to your opinion.
    Mine is different.

    Great Intellectual and thinker are needed.
    However what the definition of an intellectual ?

    An intellectual in my opinion should lead the way and anticipate the future based on current available information.
    The issue is that there is no Great intellectual nowadays.
    The so called western intellectuals failed their purpose.

    An intellectual who is only taking note of the current situation is only a wanker and a useless academic.

    A real intellectual need to be politically incorrect.
    Does it exist today ?

    Time for intellectuals is long passed in the west.
    They failed the job.

    Now is time of popular uprising.

  98. Karl.. says:

    https://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/breaking-pec-officially-announces-abdel-fattah-el-sisi-053313158.html

    Sisi won 96.91 percent in Egypt’s presidential election

    Almost 97%. Laughable!

  99. Jay says:

    You see, it is unrealistic for you to meet your own energy needs!

    Exclusive: Iran’s reactor fuel demand emerges as sticking point in nuclear talks

    “They expect to get capacity to fuel Bushehr and that’s unrealistic,” one diplomat from the ‘P5+1′ countries in talks with Iran – the United States, Russia, China, France, Britain and Germany – told Reuters.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/03/us-iran-nuclear-idUSKBN0EE20G20140603

  100. Richard Steven Hack says:

    Russia signals opposition to Western-backed Syria aid planhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/02/us-syria-crisis-russia-un-idUSKBN0ED11F20140602

    Quote

    Lavrov said Russia was always ready to discuss aid but that “these issues must not be politicized or used as a pretext to inflame passions and mobilize public opinion in support of the need for foreign interference in the Syrian crisis.”

    “These attempts are made primarily by trying to include citations of Chapter 7 … in Security Council decisions,” he told a news conference. “I think that is unacceptable, because we know what plans those who make such proposals have.”

    End Quote

    Got that right…

  101. James Canning says:

    Derek Davison has interesting comments today at LobeLog.com : “Toward better US-Iran relations”.

  102. Richard Steven Hack says:

    Oops, botched that first line…

  103. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    The EU didn’t destroy Libya. But a good argument can be made that France, Britain and the US have badly blundered.

    Gaddafi used to observe that he was needed to keep hordes of Africans from getting to Europe by traversing Libya. He of course was quite right.

    The EU did not try to “destroy” Iran.

  104. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    If Iran is stronger today, due to the sanctions, how can you argue the purpose of the sanctions was to “destroy” Iran? And if the sanctions actually work to Iran’s advantage, why complain about them?

  105. nico says:

    Jay says:
    June 3, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    “You are probably aware that these intrinsic notions of morality, democracy, etc. have been the subject of intense philosophical debate for centuries. In fact, religions are founded on the grounds of necessity for establishing appropriate doctrines.”

    Well you are correct.that is why my position about western or US moral standing is based on western or so called doctrine and that I do not have the same opinion about other part of the world.

    The point is that the US moral standing is a sham and lie from head to toe.

    And the US lies (call it cognitive disonance or logical and moral self unconsistency) have reached such a point (you can as well blame web access to various POV) that, well yes, that is obvious.

    In addition, as I stated here few months ago what is important is not the absolute position of.a country today.
    What is importabt is the global trend of a country for say 10 years or 25 years…

    Well that is obvious that the US is an down ward trend.
    While Iran or Russia or China are in a upward trend.

    What is obvious is the lies about war on terrorism.
    What is obvious is the US lie about freeing Syria…. By by supporting the killing millions.

    As a final point.
    Intellectual are usefull only when they anticipate, when when their anticipations are proven right afterward and when their thinking is based on clear cut principles and position (whatever the position).

    Well the US and western intellectual have been proven wrong, and are not held accountable and sti roam the halley of power.

    That is called a systemic failure. Maybe a civilizational failure.
    And that is obvious (right in front of your eyes if you would rather prefer).

    only popular uprising can generate the needed kick in the degenerate oligarchic ass.

    Not semi-warm, neutral, politically correct, respect of all opinions, polite or academically paid for intellectual thinking.

    the systemic failure is consumated.

    That is my opinion.

  106. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    June 3, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    That which does not kill one, makes one stronger.

  107. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    June 3, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    The greatest blunder of Axis Powers was their exercise of power during their unilateral moment – essentially forcing nuclear arms as the sole option for state strategic autonomy and independence in the international arena.

    That is, they set on course an irreversible trend towards the spread of long-range nuclear munitions.

    Axis Powers can take credit for killing UN, NPT, 2-State Solution, Peace of Westphalia, Iraq, Libya, and Yugoslavia.

    They can also claim partial credit for wounding Syria and greatly harming Iran.

    Their latest achievements were provocation against Russia in Ukraine and against China (conducted by Japan) in the Yellow Sea.

  108. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    You continue to argue, in effect, that China and Russia do not care if Iran builds nukes. I simply think you are wildly wrong on this score.

  109. Nasser says:

    “Soon, chips made in India”
    http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/soon-chips-made-in-india/article5135436.ece

    “Is it worth it for a late starter to enter a race at a point when the others have progressed even further in that time? Actually, this question is based on a ‘false’ ideal. If India does not begin now, it will be even further away three years later — which is when the fabs start churning out the chips if they were to start the project right away.”

    “One of the biggest myths of the business is that the business has grown simply on the backs of private enterprise. The industry’s evolution in Taiwan, China, Korea, the U.S. and Europe prove the contrary.”

  110. fyi says:

    James Canning says:

    June 3, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    And pray tell me what are they going to do when Iran is attacked by Axis Powers; per the long-term intentions of Axis Powers?

    Lodge a format protest at UNSC?

  111. Rehmat says:

    Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, is showing acute symptoms of mental disorder. In the past, he claimed that it’s not worth talking to Barack Obama, Joe Biden, John Kerry, Sarkozy, Rouhani and even Livni because none of them understand how tough it’s to live surrounded by Arabs who want to drive every Israeli Jew to the Dead Sea.

    Recently, Jeffrey Goldberg, former Israeli concentration camp guard, turned into an American journalist and author, interviewed Benjamin Netanyahu. The interview was published, entitled ‘Netanyahu: No body to negotiate at Ramallah’, was published at Jewish Bloomberg. In the interview, Netanyahu blamed Mahmoud Abbas’ team for the failure of John Kerry’s “offer no Palestinian can refuse”.

    Interestingly, on May 9,2014, Tzipi Livni, Israeli justice minister while on Army Radio admitted that Netanyahu’s never-ending new illegal Jewish settlements were the main cause for the failure of John Kerry’s peace talks between Netanyahu and Abbas.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/06/04/netanyahu-no-world-leader-i-can-talk/

  112. humanist says:

    BiBiJon

    Re/Your June 1, 9:23 pm post

    Anyone knows anything about this latest BBC hit piece?

    Here is a brief answer:

    I am sure Britain (in dirty bloody accord with other anti-Iran entities) played a significant role in the historical Plot of 2009.

    Here are just two revealing facts:

    1- About a year before the election Blair-Miliband (to surprise of some EU members?) took MEK off the list of the Terrorists.

    After the election Iranian Television showed during the election protests a civilian gunman aiming his gun towards an unidentified target. He was arrested and in the pursuing trials it was shown he was a MEK member. I am not aware of the text of his confessions yet, inferring, from the information published later, it is not hard to imagine why MEK was suddenly so active in the so called The Uprising.
    As far as I remember nine policemen were killed during those protests.

    2- BBC Persian Services started just six months before the election.

    Soraya Sepehpour Ulrich in an Aljazeera interview revealed how, during the protest days, BBC and other anti-IRI foreign broadcasting entities were provoking Iranians to join the protest to defend their civil rights and ‘Take Back’ their ‘stolen vote’.

    ….

    So, not surprisingly, BBC will use any opportunity to prove that the election was fraudulent.

    Couple of days ago, apparently they got their chance again.

    Bellow watch the Farsi video which is the source of BBC report in question.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=870388962988721

    Here an IRGC general says something like “..we had to stop Mousavi (from getting elected)”

    What BBC report doesn’t say is that,
    at that time, IRGC (and other Iranian Intelligent entities) were well aware how the foreigners had concocted the Plot and Mousavi was taking his orgers from foreigners (CIA asset Manouchehr Ghorbanifar was Mousavi’s friend and he
    was not the only stooge, there were others who had connections with similar dedicated anti-Iran agencies)

    In ‘Manufacturing Consent’ you read something like this:

    The Crime of MSM is not how they falsify reality, it is also how they hide the truth from the people.

    The BBC report you have read belongs to garbage pile of their similar appalling reports about Iran. Seems in the New BBC decency is not worth a ‘penny’, what matters is promoting new wars to please the heinous warmongers.

  113. Sammy says:

    Shaping the Totalitarian Mindset
    Techno-Fascism (NSA) and the Obama Administration
    by NORMAN POLLACK

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/03/techno-fascism-nsa-and-the-obama-administration/

    May be fyi could analyze and comment this article by N.Pollack

    ….America in decline, or even in not absolute terms, but rather, within a world system that in power terms is becoming de-centered (a multipolar framework), is losing its way, becoming desperate, striking out at real and imagined enemies (some from the past, as in an anticommunism never put to rest), tempted to manufacture crises as a way of preserving domestic cohesion, paramount for clinging to the unilateral military dominance to which it had been accustomed since World War 2, or at least its symbols if not its substance. Decline is never hospitable ground for democracy, particularly a democracy that requires, as a condition of its functioning, a permanent state of war—where we have been since perhaps the Korean War; and hence, a questionable democracy at best, and since the Bush-Obama years no longer subject to debate. I say, the shrinking boundaries on a daily basis for achieving social change: Therefore, let’s go back several days to three separate signs bearing out the foregoing discussion, all, I believe, interrelated, because rooted in the needs of an American capitalism struggling to protect its hegemonic status on top the global pyramid…..

  114. BiBiJon says:

    Don’t miss http://www.lobelog.com/arab-publics-prefer-light-u-s-footprint-even-in-syria/

    Writing about yesterday’s Zogby Arab opinion survey results, Jim Lobe highlights the following:

    - Among seven options that they considered the most important challenges for U.S.-Arab relations: “ending Iran’s nuclear program was among the least-chosen options, even in Saudi Arabia and the UAE whose governments have been the most hawkish toward Tehran.”

    -the single greatest obstacle to peace and stability in the Middle East among six options: “U.S. interference in the Arab world” — far ahead of the least-chosen option in six of the seven countries, “Iran’s interference in Arab affairs”.

    ——-

    Whether it is the British, and US citizens who successfully blocked a NATO attack on Syria, or this latest Arab population opinion survey that clearly shows people are unswayed by relentless propaganda, there is room for optimism.

  115. Rehmat says:

    Today, the Iranians and hundreds of millions of Muslims and freedom-loving non-Muslims remember the passing away of the greatest political reformer and Islamic scholar of the last century 25 years ago.

    In a message broadcast live on state television from the shrine of the founder of 1979 Islamic Revolution Imam Khomeini, the Supreme Leader of Iranian nation, Ayatullah Ali Khamenei paid glowing tributes to the late Imam Khomeini. He also said that (the Zionist-controlled) United States had failed in destroying the independence and progress of the Islamic Republic. He urged Iranians that they must remain resilient to face head-on its challenges at home and abroad.

    “We should understand the obstacles on the path taken by Imam Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini who founded the Islamic Republic,” Khamenei said.

    Khamenei, who sets the direction Iran takes, made no mention of a rapprochement, warning officials of what he called American efforts to “sow discord among leaderships” and foment coup d’etats and “color revolutions.”

    But Khamenei argued foreign intervention seemed unlikely, saying new military invasions “are not a priority for the United States” after suffering losses in Iraq and Afghanistan

    “The external challenge before Iran is the troublemaking of the global arrogance — frankly speaking, that of the United States,” he added.

    The next round of negotiations between the so-called P5+1 and Iran are scheduled to begin in mid-June in Geneva.

    Last month, Netanyahu told US defense secretary Chuck Hagel that “We must not allow Iran, the foremost terrorist state of our time, to develop the ability to develop a nuclear weapon.”

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/06/04/khamenei-iran-is-not-affraid-of-us-threats/

  116. fyi says:

    Rehmat says:

    June 4, 2014 at 8:10 am

    Should read:

    “…greatest political reformer and Islamic scholar of the last 1000 years”.

  117. Jay says:

    China and Russia to Establish Joint Rating Agency

    http://rt.com/business/163340-china-russia-rating-agency/

    A good start!

  118. James Canning says:

    John Kay of the Financial Times has a fine piece in today’s FT explaining why Canada does not suffer from the same financial crises as the US. Lucky Canada, one can only conclude. Unless one is a wheeler-dealer bankster, of course.

  119. James Canning says:

    Israeli officials apparently were taken by surprise by the Obama administration’s current willingness to accept a Palestinian Unity government. Loud noises about Hamas, etc etc etc.

  120. James Canning says:

    fyi,

    Iran will not be attacked by the “Axis Powers”. If it continues its current freeze on its nuclear programme.

  121. Rehmat says:

    Wow! James Canning – you and your Zionist John Kay and the Financial Times.

    Have you ever met a real Canadian dude? The Financial Times is listed on Israel Hasbara Committee as a “friendly” news-outlet.

    Under Zionist Harper government, Canada has become the most isolated country in the world. It has been ridiculed at the UN and many international forums. Canada has become a “parasite” state like Israel – sucking blood of several South American and African nations. The only reason it has not bankrupted like United States, is due to country’s huge oil resources and customers like United States which buys 80% of Canada’s export.

    http://rehmat1.com/2011/05/29/un-iran-humiliates-us-canada/

  122. Rehmat says:

    fyi – I’m sorry to hurt your anti-Islam Jewish feelings ….. Aha, aha….

  123. Karl.. says:

    Assad elected again
    http://rt.com/news/163696-assad-win-president-syria/

    Keep in mind that also exiles voted and probably majority of them on Assad.

  124. Richard Steven Hack says:

    Iran’s Civilian Enrichment Remains a Sticking Point in Talks
    West Dubs Self-Sufficiency in Fuel ‘Unrealistic’
    http://news.antiwar.com/2014/06/03/irans-civilian-enrichment-remains-a-sticking-point-in-talks/

    Still trying to derail the talks…

  125. fyi says:

    Richard Steven Hack says:

    June 4, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    The talks have already failed.

  126. kooshy says:

    Ayatollah Khamenei’s yesterday speech was amazing, well-articulated and perfectly selected and delivered, whoever didn’t have the chance to listen to it should. Today in the world there are not many world leaders with so big of balls to be able to overtly and without any fear say what, who and how is the political problem in today’s global affairs, in a straight well explained and simple to understand for general public, from what I read in western media today that speech has made the American very angry, they should have.

    I haven’t found a link to official translation if someone find it should post it here

  127. Smith says:

    fyi says:
    June 3, 2014 at 8:40 am

    Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for bringing it up.

    fyi says:
    June 3, 2014 at 9:03 am

    Yes, I fully agree. Though I believe, as I have learned from you, that Iranians sense of entitlement is one big impediment to Iran’s development: http://www.raceforiran.com/under-the-threat-of-war-iranians-affirm-their-support-for-the-islamic-republic#comment-80064

    Iranians should not feel entitled to any Western science and technology product unless and until they can prove themselves to be worthy of it by sanitizing themselves of their cargo cult culture.

  128. Smith says:

    Nasser says:
    June 3, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Very smart of Indians. Another thing to note with envy for us, is the fact that their idiots are much more sophisticated than ours. As is evident in that article, their idiots’ excuse for keeping India an importer of microprocessors, is that India should not have a fab since it is so behind in this technology and therefore entering this strategic field at present moment, is futile. This excuse, despite its inherent ridiculousness is much more intelligent, advanced and philosophical than the excuse of our idiots who claim that Iran does not need to have a fab, since it already has a fab: http://goingtotehran.com/obama-in-tehran-another-thoughtful-review-of-going-to-tehran#comment-2429

  129. Smith says:

    Nasser says:
    June 3, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    As you can see in that link above, I wasted so much time to make them see that Iran does not have a fab or a mask shop at all (and still does not have them). But they insisted that Iran had them all. They even implied that Iran is at forefront of this technology. Silly of me, I could not understand why they were so “faithful” to their obviously false idea that Iran already has a fab. It took a while for me to diagnose these people. But diagnose, I did. You see, they are so much faithful to their cargo cult culture that they as a matter of their existence believed with every cell in their body that all these microprocessors around us are all Iranian.

    All these Toshiba, Intel, AMD, Texas Instrument, Sony, NEC, etc etc microprocessors were all made by dead forefathers of Iranians in heaven and sent to earth. But as happens in cargo cult the “crafty pirate White man/Japanese/Chinese/etc” are taking over these shipments of microprocessors from heaven meant to be delivered to Iran. If only Iranians could some how signal to their forefathers in heaven that they are putting the wrong address on the shipments then Iran does not need any fab. Only if their forefathers knew: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlYe2KS0-Y

  130. James Canning says:

    Rehmat,

    Canada has in fact avoided the sort of banking crises that periodically afflict the US. Correct?

  131. Smith says:

    The most unjust and cruel justice system in the world and its effects on business and economy: http://tarikhirani.ir/Modules/News/Phtml/News.PrintVersion.Html.php?Lang=fa&TypeId=30&NewsId=3892

    Then they wonder why economy is not improving.

  132. Smith says:

    حاج محمدتقي برخوردار در زمان پيروزي انقلاب در انگلستان بود. با آمدن امام خميني و بازشدن فرودگاه‌ها به ايران بازگشت و تلويزيون مداربسته‌اي هم به مدرسه رفاه كه امام در آن سكونت داشتند، اهدا كرد. در همان زمان براي مدت كوتاهي به عضويت هيات‌مديره كشتيراني انتخاب شد و حتي به ملاقات امام خميني نيز رفت اما باور نمي‌كرد كه تمام دارايي‌اش ملي اعلام شود تا اينكه ظهر يكي از جمعه‌هاي گرم تابستان اواسط تير 1358 از راديو شنيد كه شركت‌هايش ملي شده است. 24 ساعت در انديشه بود و پس از آن به حكم شوراي انقلاب اعتراض كرد. مي‌گفت توليدكننده‌اي است كه مالياتش را پرداخته و نبايد مشمول مصادره شود. با اين همه حاج برخوردار در سال 58 به دنبال ملي شدن شركت‌ها و منع هرگونه معامله براي مدتي ايران را ترك كرد اگرچه در خانه هر ايراني حداقل يكي از محصولات كارخانه‌هاي او به چشم مي‌خورد. او در سال 1370 به اميد بازپس‌گيري بخشي از اموال به ايران بازگشت. هفته‌اي چند روز به دادگاه انقلاب مي‌رفت و چند ساعت بيرون در منتظر رسيدگي به پرونده‌اش مي‌شد. هركس از مقامات كه مي‌آمد بلند مي‌شد و احترام مي‌كرد. دادگاه نهايتا در 1373 حكم به بازگرداندن مقداري از زمين موروثي او در رفسنجان و يك سال بعد نيز حكم به استرداد منزل شخصي‌اش را صادر كرد، اگرچه براي انتقال زمين پولي بابت مراقبت و حفاظت از محمدتقي برخوردار گرفته شد.

    حاج محمدتقي برخوردار وقتي از پس گرفتن اموالش نااميد شده بود، درمقابل سوال كننده‌اي كه از او مي‌پرسيد اگر امروز فعاليت تجاري‌ات را شروع مي‌كردي چگونه عمل مي‌كردي، گفته بود كه« يك شركت تاسيس نموده و آن را شخصا اداره مي‌كرد و هرگز در جهت گسترش فعاليت‌ها اقدامي نمي‌نموده است.» سرانجام اين مرد سخت كوش كويري كه مي‌گفت زندگي اولش كار، وسطش كار و آخرش كار است به بيماري آلزايمر مبتلا شد و حتي نمي‌دانست كه او حاجي برخوردار است

    http://www.mehrnameh.ir/article/736/%D8%B5%D9%86%D8%B9%D8%AA%DA%AF%D8%B1%D9%8A-%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%B4%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A7-%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84-%D9%86%DA%AF%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D9%87-%D9%83%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%A8-%D8%B2%D9%86%D8%AF%DA%AF%D9%8A-%D9%88-%D8%B2%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87-%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AC-%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%BE%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%B5%D9%86%D8%B9%D8%AA-%D9%86%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%86-%D9%84%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B2%D9%85-%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86%DA%AF%D9%8A-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86

  133. Smith says:

    وقتی الزایمر هم یاد کارخانه های مصادره ای را پاک نمی کند

    http://www.khabaronline.ir/(X(1)S(fzkoke015hoeqfy5gibaew1uk))/detail/163727/Economy/political-economy

  134. Smith says:

    Correcting the above link for:

    وقتی الزایمر هم یاد کارخانه های مصادره ای را پاک نمی کند

    http://goo.gl/HLdEmb

  135. Smith says:

    Joke of a nation: http://goo.gl/LHX3zm

  136. BiBiJon says:

    kooshy says:
    June 4, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    I guess the 2008 message stands: you change and we will change.

  137. James Canning says:

    Peter Jenkins has good piece this week on LobeLog.com : “A nuclear deal with Iran is still odds-on”.

  138. kooshy says:

    It is fair and correct almost all of Yazdi 1960,70′s industrialists including haji Fateh (Jahan Group) who
    Was assassinated by Mojahdeen before re locution were clean and became reach not through illegal means or relations with government.
    Some of these families which I know, are
    Sarafzadeh, Amin, Fateh, Harati, Barkhordar, Agha, Afshar Yazd,(so many years later I don’t remember all the names ) but not all became subject to early confestigation revolutionary mentality.
    many got something back many years later. But still is true it was not fair, never less one needs to believe in a revolution of Iran scale wet and dry burns all the same.

  139. kooshy says:

    Need to correct
    all of Yazdi 1960,70′s industrialists including haji Fateh (Jahan Group) who
    Was assassinated by Mojahdeen before re revloution were clean and became rich not through illegal means or relations with government.

  140. kooshy says:

    Actually almost all these Yazdi industrialist were rich even before becoming industrialist or
    Major Importers like Haji Barkhordar, every one of these families were major foreign trade merchants before they setup their own factories in 1960,70′s

  141. Rehmat says:

    James Canning – As a professional hasbara bigot you never stick to one point. Canada has as much capitalist economic system as United States or Israel.

  142. Rehmat says:

    Syria: USrael is barking on the wrong tree

    As I posted here many times that the West is not interested in bringing democracy to any Muslim-majority state, as it has always turned out to be anti-Israel regime. The so-called “Arab Spring” was given birth by the US State Department and several Jewish think tanks to hijack the public outcry against the pro-US repressive regimes in the Middle East. The questions of democratic legitimacy have never determined US relationships with any state where the US had strategic and economic interests. If a commitment to democracy and democratic governance was the determining factor for US support, the Obama Administration would not be in alliance with the dictatorship of the royalists in the Gulf states, it would have condemned the coups in Honduras and Egypt, not given diplomatic or economic support to the coup in Ukraine, and would not be supporting right-wing elements in Venezuela attempting to destabilize the democratically-elected government in that country.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/06/05/syria-usrael-is-barking-on-the-wrong-tree/

  143. Nasser says:

    Smith,

    Thank you for your response.

    Of course you have been pointing out these issues from the very beginning only to be mocked and ridiculed by some here. That LEON based chip that Parse Semi supposedly designed was by the Iranians’ own admission (despite what some other commentators here may claim), FABRICATED in TSMC in Taiwan.

    At least Indians have some honest journalists who hold idiots like the one quoted in the article to account. I liked how that journalist pointed out that no one starts at the top and if India doesn’t start now it would only fall farther and farther behind. I guess Iranians believe patriotism to mean being supportive of official lies no matter how ridiculous and taking pride in false accomplishments. India has a massively dysfunctional government with vast regional disparities, but despite all their problems and corruption they understand the value of scientific and technological advancement and are thus progressing. Iran has such easy means of capital accumulation and unlike India or China doesn’t have over a billion destitute people to worry about but we are only falling further and further behind. As you have pointed out before, over a trillion dollars of foreign currency earnings were wasted on importing “water melons” and even gasoline … F****** gasoline! which they are still importing!!!

    I think what is important to learn here is that the state should provide the initial developmental cost for these important strategic industries (like they have done with the nuclear industry). These are very capital intensive industries and of course Iranian laws and financial system makes capital accumulation by private individuals very difficult. And the Iranian government is responsible for almost 80% of the economic activity and when one has accumulated so much power it is only natural that they will be the recipient of all criticism when something is left wanting.

    The Iranian government should spend whatever amount necessary to build one or more foundries. Simultaneously it should encourage and provide very favorable loan terms and grants to engineers to start up EDA software companies and fabless design companies.

  144. Nasser says:

    I can understand why Iranians (and indeed all others but East Asians and before them the Russians and even before them the Germans and the Americans) have been reluctant to take up your recommendations. A lot of what makes sense for economic nationalism doesn’t make commercial sense. It is so much easier for much easier for a nation to sell oil and import the necessary items and so much more profitable for politically connected businessmen to import foreign merchandize than to produce such goods themselves. A lot of times even if billions are poured into industries to make such goods, those goods are not of the same quality as those of foreign industries that have been around far longer. Because you see for many Iranian consumers and many other snobby third worlders, nothing but the latest and greatest (be it iphones or airplanes) would do.

    Now the industrialized world has told the Iranians that many of the products they desire or even desperately need won’t be sold to them. Oil for water melons and Chinese toys is the best they can get. Several Iranians like perhaps Mr. Zarif and certainly Mr. Mousavian think this is easily reversible and think if they beg hard enough and try to play off the Russians against the Americans enough they can get what they want. I believe they are in for a rude awakening. Iran isn’t Norway and is potentially too much a threat to be allowed to be Saudi Arabia. It is the sort of middle power that great powers love to slice up.

    If the Iranians want to keep that from happening and want to preserve let alone improve their living standards, they will have to produce what they need themselves. Now, if the industrialized world won’t sell Iranians the goods they want they certainly won’t sell them the factories and turn key plants that produce these products either (so Iranians can then stupidly and yet again claim that finally they have become self sufficient). Iranians won’t be sold many of the industrial goods, precision machinery, control systems, necessary software etc to equip and build these factories either. Judging from the reaction last time Iran tried to hire an Ukrainian specialist, Iran probably wouldn’t be able to without great difficulty acquire expertise of foreign personnel to help them out with these tasks either.

    Meaning, they will have no other choice but to do what you have long advocated; learn to think for themselves, do their own research, steal whatever industrial secrets you can, develop indigenous expertise and reverse engineer many of the technology, industrial systems and weapons that are in fact decades old. They will of course need nuclear protection to be able to do all this very hard work in peace. Because no matter what some entitled snobs might tell you, Iran doesn’t need the latest and greatest. The first hydrogen bomb was exploded in 1952, the magnificent Concorde first flew and the moon landing happened in 1969.

  145. Sineva says:

    Smith says:
    June 4, 2014 at 6:08 pm
    Its funny that you didnt post the links where ExposingNeoConWarmongeringStooges debunked your claims in the same thread
    http://goingtotehran.com/obama-in-tehran-another-thoughtful-review-of-going-to-tehran#comment-2398

  146. James Canning says:

    Karl..,

    East Jerusalem is in the occupied West Bank. George Brandis may be instructed to try to argue otherwise, it appears (from the story you just linked).

    Many rich and powerful Jews try to suppress the use of the words “occupied”, “occupation”, etc etc etc in stories connected to Israel and its continuing occupation of Palestine.

  147. James Canning says:

    Rehmat,

    I find it curious that you seem angry that I point out the lack of banking crises in Canada, when the US is afflicted with such crises periodically. John Kay’s comments in the Financial Times this week on that subject are very interesting.

    Tell me, is China “capitalist”, hyper-capitalist, or socialist? A bit of all three?

  148. James Canning says:

    Rehmat,

    I have stated a number of times that the country posing the greatest threat to peace in the Middle East, may well be Israel. This is “hasbara” propaganda, in your view?

  149. James Canning says:

    Rehmat,

    Russia has a capitalist system. Are you arguing in favor of revolution in that country?